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‘Expect a revolution in lighting’

Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:46 PM

MIAMI – My dad recently asked me, "What stories are you working on right now?"

"Well, one story is about LEDs . . ." I started to say.

"Oh! Light-emitting diodes!"

I smiled and looked at him sideways. "Yeeesss. How do you know about LEDs?"

He told me about some of the common uses he was aware of, including use in medical instrumentation, VCRs and traffic lights. Turns out, most of us have had exposure to LEDs whether we've been aware of them or not. 


NBC News/ Stephanie Himango
White LED lights illuminate the trees of New York City's Rockefeller Center.

LED lighting technology has seen significant advances this year, and has made dramatic inroads in the area of holiday lighting in particular. More advances are necessary – and are on the way – before LEDs are truly integrated for mainstream use, in the way we think about regular incandescent and fluorescent light bulbs.

LEDs are small, but their potential is big.

Not just holiday lights
According to the Department of Energy, lighting accounts for about one-fifth of the electricity we use as a nation annually. That is, holiday and general illumination lighting combined account for 21.5 percent of all electricity used in America each year.

LED technology presents potential cost-saving and energy-saving. Consider this: LED lights use roughly 90 percent less energy than incandescent lights.

Assistant Secretary of Energy Andy Karsner says with respect to LED holiday lights, "When you buy them once, you'll probably be buying them for the rest of your life. You won't have to replace them; they won't short out; they don't overheat; they'll last for 40 years or longer."

NBC News/ Stephanie Himango
LED globes light up Washington Street in Ann Arbor, Michigan. The city is a leader in incorporating LED technology into the city's infrastructure.

In fact, Karsner says that if each American household changed just their holiday lighting from regular incandescents to LED bulbs, the country would save at least $160 million collectively this year alone.

And that's just the beginning.

The Department of Energy forecasts that at today's electric rates we could save $10 billion annually if every American were to purchase LED lights instead of standard incandescents for regular at-home lighting.

It is conceivable.

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Karsner says they expect to see LED lights penetrate the marketplace well beyond holiday lights in the coming year. "We're seeing them not only in the automotive industry, in stoplights, in civic applications, but this year they'll be marked up with the Energy Star brand, and you'll see them appearing on store shelves to replace even incandescents and compact fluorescents."

The changes are significant, says Karsner, "We expect a revolution in lighting in this country…within 20 years."

See more about LED lights on NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams on Thursday evening.

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Electric companies often have to buy electricity from other utilities at very high cost to serve their customers during peak useage times. Electric companies promote conservation. I work for one that sponsors switching to CFLs.

Flickering flourescent lights are a result of the design of the ballast. CFL's use an electronic ballast that switches at a frequency so high I would be inclined to discount claims by anyone who says they "see" it. Old style magnetic ballasts, purely passive devices, are the culprits that contribute to the 120hz flicker phenomenon.

Correcting flickering LEDs for the sake of brightness control has an easy fix. Higher base frequency pulse width modulation would result in faster on-off switching with shorter on times. The downside is that higher frequency designs typically lead to higher manufacturing costs.

Considering that a 100watt bulb lit continously for 1 year would require over 800lbs of coal to be burned at the local power station, is a little inconvenience caused by flickering that much to deal with? The technology will only improve.
LEDs are the way to go. CFLs might be cheaper to run, but they emit a nasty looking light. I'll pay a premium if I have to to keep using them. The downside of LEDs is that the corporations have to maintain their dividends, so the less power we all use, the more it is going to cost. Similar thing with gas- we can cut back all we want, but the price will never drop, because of the demand from overseas.
Led lighting is dimmable, I am an electrician and I just got through retro fitting a house that had multiple dimmer banks, and the leds worked smoothly( but you CANNOT dim cfl's!). I would definately recommend them to anyone who wants to save energy, and wants the dimmable option.
CFL's and LED's are very popular year round throughout China. They have developed many uses of them from large outdoor TV's, store lighting and simple house bulbs. The are safe for use as no heat is emitted. The newer super-bright LED's are catching on, and depending on the programming move as fast as lightning in signs. Some LED bulbs have more than one color in the housing (white/blue/yellow/red) so the combinations of color are limited by the rainbow, it's amazing to watch Vegas style displays all in LED here. The costs in the US (for household bulbs) are very much higher and the output is lower than other lighting types from what I've seen so far. The prices will drop eventually.
Greg in Chicago, LEDs do NOT flicker.  They operate on DC current, and only flicker if they are "pulsed" intentionally.  It adds to the cost when MAKING them flicker, you've got it the wrong way around.  You have to add circuitry to make them flicker  It's MUCH easier and less costly to make them stay on constantly.

There's no reason why home lighting would have to be made to flicker, and for the reason you stated, they will manufacture them so as not to flicker.
For MR11, MR16, auto, , home led's, see:
autolumination dot com

Look on eBay for incandescent replacements and more, even replacements for the long fluorescent tubes.

Myself, I have led night lights, some incandescent replacements in my home, and I use red and blue led's to grow orchids indoors. Look for "grow lights" on eBay, or the colored incandescent replacements (E27-base screw-ins).
I would like to see how the theatrical lighting industry is applying these lights .Please more info .

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The real cost of these is nominal. Solar voltage panels are being manufactured very cheaply. The mark up for these items is criminal. If folks could buy these items at cost. The electric company moguls would be hit so hard in the shorts. All the Green ideas born in the 60's and 70's got shelved. In the new century these technologys have been reengineered with new/cheap material. The monopolies will never give up the strangle hold on us. The high mileage carbarator got suppressed. And wont ever be produced. If you find any info. Try Pogue Carb. They exist.
Seems candles flicker, too. It's rather charming.
LEDS will only pulse if the power supply is rippling. A design or equipment flaw. As far as their uses, I asked my college professors in 1989 about using them for general lighting applications. I think they are a great idea. Saves power and offers a great alternative to incadescent lighting, ccfl, and compact fluorescents.
LED flickering is not necessarily poor design. Since household power is AC and diodes only allow current in one direction, the diodes are only on part of the time. The only true way to stop the flickering on household lights would be to use a filtered DC power supply, sort of similar to the power cube transformers used on smaller household electronics.
As was mentioned brfore, if the demand goes down for electricity the power co will have to make more money somehow. They will then raise rates to boost the lower demand. This happened in NJ when we had energy problems they asked people to conserve energy and then they lost money and raised the rates. The LED is great and I am all for saveing energy, bdo not want to be punished for doing so.
As was mentioned before, if the demand goes down for electricity the power co will have to make more money somehow. They will then raise rates to boost the lower demand. This happened in NJ when we had energy problems they asked people to conserve energy and then they lost money and raised the rates. The LED is great and I am all for saveing energy, bdo not want to be punished for doing so.
As was mentioned before, if the demand goes down for electricity the power co will have to make more money somehow. They will then raise rates to boost the lower demand. This happened in NJ when we had energy problems they asked people to conserve energy and then they lost money and raised the rates. The LED is great and I am all for saveing energy, bdo not want to be punished for doing so.
I agree with Greg from Chicago about the hard to look at car taillights! The new LED taillights in all Cadillac models really bother my eyes at night.

I don't know exactly what it is, but they are difficult to look at.  ???

I know I'm not alone in this either.

My wife complains of eye problems after view LED lightbars on Emergency vehicles.

There is a phenomenom where some people are more subjective to seizures after viewing flashing LED lights.
they are replacing most of the traffic lights and walk signs in this area to LED which is great because the light seems to travel further in the fog and rain,
which in my opinion is a good thing heck I can see emergency vehicle lights flashing a couple miles away the reason for this is the light wave length ,the wave length is alot more longer than an incandescent bulbs wave length which allows it to travel further ,a good example of this is a regular incandescent bulb is a regular wave at the beach looks impressive and powerful especially where surfers ride them ,now an LED is like a tsunami and don't look like much at first but it can travel further in land as we all know all too well.
As soon as I can I am converting my S10 to LED lighting and when a headlight conversion is avaible I'm doing that as well and then my truck is worth more as well .  
We are a mfg of LED products. Some of the statements are correct. The biggest issue facing LED's are the total light output. Particularly when trying to replace a lamp in a home/office. Technology is rapidly changing. Today we have LED lamps that give off the same color light as a standard incandescent lamp. We also have a cool white lamp that is a little darker blue than a fluorescent lamp. The technology is changing rapidly and as LED performance increases, you will see more products on the market.

LED lamps in a typical home should last between 35 and 40 years. In an office environment they will last about 20 years, or just leave them on and they are designed to last 10 years.
LED lights do not have mercury in them. A major and often neglected fact regarding CFL's.
Remember LED's do not emit a heat plume as to standard incandescent bulbs, both low voltage like on trucks signals or headlights and traffic signals, railroad crossings. In the northern areas where snow and ice typically can blot out these lights but with incandescent at least with the heat plume it melts it away. Try that with an LED. Hmmm, install heaters? hmmm, more energy. Probably not insurmountable, but hopefully before someone gets killed.
I've filled the house with DAYLIGHT CFL'S but I do not notice any of them flickering.  I don't notice the led's do it either.
I have purchased many CFL's and already 4 of the $ 10 bulbs have died before their 7 year lifespan was up and they were not used much.  I bought them about four years ago and they died about two years later.
With regard to Christmas light LEDs I had one string of yellow LEDs that the hydro company gave me on an incandescent exchange fail on the second year-only half the string of 70 bulbs would light up.  Happily the power company replaced the string with a new one the following Christmas (last year) when they were doing another exchange. I tried to find a loose wire or cut wire but there was none. So I disagree with this quote from the article:
"Assistant Secretary of Energy Andy Karsner says with respect to LED holiday lights, "When you buy them once, you'll probably be buying them for the rest of your life. You won't have to replace them; they won't short out; they don't overheat; they'll last for 40 years or longer.""
Even though I've taken measures to reduce power consumption, including disabling my computer from the mains by means of a power bar, I find that the savings don't come to much.  I find that the hydro company charges me more to deliver the electricity than the one I consume.  For example, if the bill says I used $ 50 dollars of power in two months the charge to provide the electricity to the house is $ 60.  Certainly doesn't appear as an incentive.  I also saw a news item yesterday from a led bulb maker in which he said that you could get led lights in place of CFLs for the same price now but that sellers would charge more because they can. The bulbs are made up of multiple white LEDs.  I just did a search and came up with this site that has led bulbs of all sorts at $ 50 each for the most dear.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/MR16_specs.htm
In reply to another post, LED lighting in emergency vehicles is energy efficient, but more importantly provides greater safety for police, medics and firefighters as the lights used on emergency vehicles remains bright even during the most sunny summer day. LED emergency lighting is resistant to shock and vibration, lengthening their service life


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