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Starbucks contradictions irk caffeine addict

Posted: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:41 AM

 DALLAS – I drink a lot of Starbucks. By my calculations, I average at least ten trips a week to Starbucks, where I order either:

A: A triple grande latte (if I feel thin)

Or

B: A venti Americano with room for half-n-half (if I feel like I actually look)

Without Starbucks, I fear, I might actually die.

It’s not just about caffeine addiction. I think a big part of it is that having a 20-something with dreadlocks call me "dude" and ask how my day is going makes me feel young. Maybe not cool…but not like the 42-year-old dad I am, trying to figure out how to pay for two kids to go to college.

I’m not someone who typically goes out of my way to protect the environment, but for some reason a seemingly minor practice at my beloved Starbucks really bugs me.

For the record, I have never (not even once) brought my own mug with me and had the barista simply fill it up. If I did, I’d save a dime off of my order, and I’d be able to walk around telling people how I did something good for the environment…but I don’t.

I don’t recycle nearly as much as I should. And I don’t lecture people about their carbon footprints. I drive 30,000 miles annually and fly about 50 round-trips every year. I do use compact fluorescent light bulbs in my house (mostly because it saves money) but I don’t like them. I eat meat…a lot of meat. I’ve never owned anything made of hemp. In short, Al Gore would consider me bad for the environment.

Starbucks, on the other hand, takes great corporate pride in being green.

Surely you’ve seen the "Arctic Tale" DVDs sitting on store shelves:

"…inspiring animals face countless challenges in a beautiful icebound world that is rapidly melting beneath them."

Starbucks has used its considerable marketing clout to promote this film, which according to critics delivers a "powerful message" to kids "…of how global climate change is challenging our furry -- and blubbery -- animal friends."

Starbucks’ Web site last month included a link on the home page encouraging java junkies to take part in World Water Day. A little navigation will take you to the company’s "Environmental Affairs" site, where Starbucks explains its numerous environmental initiatives in great detail:

"…Starbucks is committed to minimizing our environmental impacts throughout our entire supply chain, from coffee bean to coffee cup."

It’s that last part about the cup that has me curious. Why on earth do I get two paper cups when I order one cup of coffee? By my highly un-scientific count over the past four months or so, I’ve been "double-cupped" roughly 60 percent of the time. And not just here in Texas. I travel all over the country and get the same results wherever I go.

"Double-cupping" is Starbucks’ word for the practice, which it has tried to end.

The first effort came in 1996, when the company held a design competition "…to develop a new disposable hot cup as an environmentally preferred solution to "double cupping…"

But the challenges of designing a paper coffee cup that holds a hot beverage without burning the fingers of the person drinking it proved too daunting. Instead, Starbucks adopted an interim solution: the corrugated paper sleeve, made from 60 percent post-consumer material.

I should point out here that in my double-cupping experiences, I get two cups AND the paper sleeve.

So back to the Web site I go, where I discover that in 2006, Starbucks did begin using new cups in its stores made with 10 percent post consumer fiber content – in other words 10 percent of the cup comes from recycled paper. That breakthrough, according to Starbucks, took three years of research and development and "…will lower Starbucks dependence on tree fiber by more than five million pounds annually."

The Environmental Defense Fund estimated the savings at 78,000 trees annually, noting that Starbucks uses 1.9 billion paper cups each year. That was 2006. Today, the company uses even more paper cups.

So, back to the double-cupping. How many trees do you think Starbucks would save by figuring out a way to serve one cup of coffee in one paper cup instead of two cups, plus a sleeve?

Is the technology really that elusive?

I’ve called Starbucks headquarters, and over the past few weeks have had some really pleasant conversations with their media relations people. They have all pointed out that their cups use 10 percent recycled content.

"But why do I keep getting two cups and a paper sleeve, instead of one cup?" I ask.

"You shouldn’t be," they answer.

"I know," I say, "that’s why I’m calling."

"Oh," they say, "we’ll get back to you on that."

And they did. First, by sending me their standards regarding double-cupping and cup sleeves:

  • We do not put cup sleeves on or double cup our milk-based hot beverages (Caffe Latte, Caffe Mocha, etc.). However, due to the cup design a cup sleeve is required on all Venti cups.
  • We do put cup sleeves on but do not double cup our water-based hot beverages (brewed coffee, tea, Americano, etc.).
  • Short cups are the only cups that require a double-cup (cup sleeves do not fit short cups).

"So I shouldn’t be getting two cups when I order a Triple Grande Latte or Venti Americano," I say when I call back.

"Right," they say.

"Then why am I?"

"We’ll get back to you on that."

And again, they did. This time with Brian Grandbouche, their Director of Retail Implementation, who told me the company "constantly tests new ideas." But, he added, Starbucks is "looking for a solution always that’s environmentally sound and meets the needs of the customer, and sometimes those needs don’t marry up."

"Alas, the answer!" I think to myself. "The technology really is that hard."

I picture a room full of scientists working tirelessly on a coffee cup breakthrough. But I’m wrong again.

"Actually," he tells me, "we feel we have that cup, if a milk-based beverage is in there."

Then what, ultimately, is the root of the double-cupping dilemma?

People.

Baristas double-cup despite Starbucks rules against it because they think it’s what consumers want. Consumers don’t stop them because it is what we want.

As for Starbucks? They’re pushing stores to provide more "serveware" for people who drink coffee in the store, and they’re encouraging consumers and employees to use refillable travel mugs. They’ve also launched a Web site, MyStarbucksIdea.com, for consumers to offer their input.

"We’re refocusing ourselves," said Grandbouche. "We can do more, right. I like the fact that actually this is something that we can do something about."

Meanwhile, I’m developing my own action plan: 

  •  I’m going to seriously consider bringing my own mug to Starbucks. Seriously. That doesn’t mean I’ll actually do it yet, but I’ll definitely think about it.
  • When I see the dreaded second cup come out, I’ll heroically intervene, saying something clever like "are you crazy, you’ll kill us all."
  • When I do get double-cupped, I’ll save the second cups at home, re-using them at social occasions when I’m giving my guests Folgers, but want them to think its Starbucks. They’ll know it’s not Starbucks, but I’ll deny it.

Finally, I should point out that Starbucks isn’t the only company facing the hot cup dilemma. Other big chains have been criticized over the years for, say, using Styrofoam coffee cups.

They’re all looking for solutions…while I’m looking for my next caffeine fix.

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How come TULLY'S COFFEE can provide FULLY COMPOSTABLE cups but not Starbucks?
I've never been double-cupped at Starbucks, and I go there every day (to many different stores in my city). The sleeves work fine. At places like Tim Horton's I have to ask them to double-cup because they don't use sleeves. Starbucks - the company - has it right... they just need their store managers (wherever you've been buying your coffee) to enforce their policies a bit better.
I also am a 10/week Starbucks consumer, and would like to note that I purchased a refillable travel mug so that I could cut down on my paper cup use.  At the time I purchased the largest travel mug that Starbucks sells, assuming it would contain my daily drink, Venti Mocha, 20oz.  However, on my next visit I made an interesting discovery, the travel mug I purchased was actually only 16oz, not 20oz as I assumed.
Since then I check every Starbucks I visit (50-100) and have never once seen a reusable travel mug for sale larger than 16oz.  So I must ask, why no 20oz travel mugs?? Just my observation.
 
Great message, embedded in a funny story. I'd like to see another Nortwest-based company get some ribbing: Costco. I was in there last weekend and was floored to see a credit card-sized gift card to a local ski resort encased in that impossible-to-open plastic packaging. This 2"x3" card now measured approximately 6"x10"! Instead of fitting several thousand into one box, maybe 20 did. So not only did we have to throw all that plastic away after gashing our fingers trying to open it, but how many extra cardboard boxes had to be produced to handle this inefficiency? I'd like to see us all chide big corporations into curbing this behavior, like Mr. Teague just did.
Go to McDonalds! Their coffee is very good and a large cup is around $1.50. (Seniors can get a small coffee for only 50 cents!)
I happen to enjoy Starbucks greatly. I do not consume it on a daily basis, however, I have found that thier coffee to be the best one around. It happens to be strange that the Starbucks you visit keep double cupping. Note that most Starbucks do not any in many you are encourage to make use of your "personal cup" wheter is a mug you bring in or use the ones found behind the counter. I would recomend to many of you to do futher research of the company and their practices. Their website is filled with information. I would also encourage any one to read, Pour Your Hart in to it. How Starbucks built a company one cup at a time by Howard Schultz and The Starbucks Experience, 5 Principles for Turning the Ordinary into Extraordinary by independent market analyst, Joseph A. Michelli.
These two books explained many of the practices, triumphs and errors of the company and the changes made to correct them.
Its amazing how many people are focusing on the "college part" of this story... I, like you, am at either starbucks... coffee bean... petes...etc at least once a day. I actually have not recieved a double cupped drink in many years from starbucks! I do agree with you though, that Starbucks should do more to create an incentive for people to bring their own cups... I personally try to get a real mug when I know I will be sitting in the store.
While I typically stick to a single cup and sleeve, and am aware of the environmental (and economical) benefits, there are some instances where I have enjoyed the (guilty) pleasure being double-cupped by the barista. Let me explain...

In my opinion, one of the largest benefits to having a double cup is the increase in rigidity of the cup. Yes, the sleeve insulates and protects my hands from the hot drink, but if I'm walking around with my coffee, I've accidentally squeezed the cup too hard (for example, when someone bumps into me), and spilled some on myself. I've noticed, when a barista does give me a double cup, it's much easier to avoid any spills due to squeezing and general wobbling of the cup. Perhaps they could design a cup that is stiffer, it might alleviate some people's concerns (it would alleviate mine).

Just my two cents.
Oh people, leave him alone.
I would rather see someone get their kicks from drinking coffee than to see them buying two packs of cigarettes a day.
He said if he was double cupped he would USE the darn second cup at home!!!
"quit drinking coffee and your kids can go to school..." Shut up, it's not that easy, a vice is a vice. I am sure that the kids from 4h who go around and pick up trash on the sides of highways and roads get 50x more cigarette butts than they do disposable coffee cups.
Find something else to get mad about other than someone's coffee addiction and how they are going to send their kids to college. At least he is making the attempt to help his kids! A lot of us do it out of our own darn pocket!!!
I am also an architect and Starbuck's is "green-washing" their space and the environment. Look at all the incandescent lighting and accent lighting.  They don't use efficient lighting, have numerous decorative fixtures and they use too much of it.

The coffee just isn't that good either.
The best thing to do is just not go to Starbuck's!  As a true coffee snob, it disturbs me that the masses flock to Starbuck's like cattle when they serve stale, over-roasted coffee and most times can't even prepare espresso drinks properly.  If you live in the midwest, I encourage you to look for a Dunn Bros. Coffee.  They roast their beans in store each day.  Once you have fresh roasted coffee you won't settle for anything else.  Try searching the web for an independently owned coffee roaster in your area and support them rather than the evil empire.
Whenever I go to Starbucks, which is often, I ALWAYS ask that they refrain from double-cupping my order. Not only do they double cup my order anyway, but when I say a single cup is better for the environment, they tell me they simply must double-cup, or "they will get in trouble." (huh?) Then when I ask about recycling all of the milk containers they use every day, they say they don't recycle. The reason they give for not recycling is amazing. "It's too much work."
I take my own cup to Starbucks. Why use their cups when all I do is wash it after I get through and put away for the next time. I bought a cup that was on display and I get a discount eveytime I buy their coffee.
Quote- "I would be more concerned about Starbucks changing policy on latte's containing milk will now get non-fat, as opposed to whole milk.  It has now been revealed that non-fat milk causes prostate cancer in men."

The other crap part of this quote is the change to non-fat. They've changed to REDUCED fat as the standard, which is 2%. Whole milk is 4%.
Well I don't offten get hot drinks at Starbucks (fraps are my thing)so the "double cup" does not effect me, however I have noted that for whatever drink one orders the Baristas "pour" two(2) shots, should your drink only require one(1) the second is poured away down the drain! Why?
The other alternative in most cities is Caribou Coffee. I promise you that they recycle cardboard and anything else that is recyclable.
"Real Friends Don't Let Friends Drink at Starbuck's" -bumper sticker seen around town.

Shop local and support your neighborhood barrista - they will make your coffee exactly how you like it (no pre-measured shots there), single cup it, and be way more cool than corporate America.  After a bit they will even remember who you are and you can simply walk in and nod (bliss on nonverbal mornings) AND you will supporting the local economy.

Starbucks could offset their carbon foot print by donating to carbonoffset.org. They could also go solar. 10% recycled matterial who cares? That's almost nothing. There are no recycle bins here in New Mexico. I think I'm disappointed that we continue to support a company who does little to nothing to support us back. Thanks for the information
Nobody seems to have noticed Bruce (of Michigan)'s post, which I think is thought-provoking.

We complain about the environment, we also complain about jobs.

But to play devil's advocate:
Growing trees in Michigan (thanks Bruce) does put Americans to work - and it provides a financial incentive (the most effective type of incentive around) to PLANT TREES. Can't sustain forests without new trees. More trees growing = more trees gobbling up the dreaded CO2. Might be a wash as far as the carbon footprint, since it takes CO2 to cut the trees down and transport/mill them into paper, but carbon-neutral solutions are neutral, and if a guy can feed his family and you don't burn your fingers in the process, there's a net gain.

And if Don wants to buy overpriced coffee to help some Barrista put her kids (or herself) through college, isn't that OK, too? As long as the Barrista remembers to stop by the newsstand and buy a paper with his column in it, of course! ;)
I Dont care about Starbucks trade policys. I never went in their shops. I drink 4-5 cups a day
 Spiros
I can think of more important things than double cupping issues. Seems to me that there are better ways to spend time.  As far as college for your kids?  I agree with the people that encourage you not to buy so much of starbucks way over priced java.  Good luck with the college!
And don't forget that Starbucks refused to make contributions for out troops in Iraq...that in itself should be enough to lose business! Starbucks is a corporation trying to profit. End of story.
I never buy Starbucks anymore, one kid in college plus myself. However, about 10 years ago I bought two leather sleeves at Starbucks. I keep one in each car so I can take it in or put it on my cup in the car. It even works with "imitation" coffee cups and advertises for Starbucks with their logo branded on the side. Wonder why they don't still have them? Leather?
Large corporations who say they are working to be socially responsible are, ultimately, knowingly deceiving us.  They are legally beholden to their shareholders, not the their customers.  Starbucks is greenwashing, to be sure, and for that reason will never again get my business (I was a loyal customer back in the days when they were one store in the Pike Place market in Seattle, and still sold, yes it's true, drug paraphernalia).  If we want the one-cup-only issue to take hold, we need to convince their shareholders to crack down on the company's wasteful and expensive practice.  BAM.  Instant change.  Follow the money.
I Quit coffe in 1988! I did some reading on tea's and green tea contains 80% less caffeine than coffee That is what i do every day! Also an asprin a day since 1988. I do not do fast food or starbucks! I am also into amateur radio which benfits mankind (www.arrl.com) I was one of many to gather signatures for no smoking in OHIO! It took me 3 days to go without coffee. I never smoked! I really do not care what people think of me! I have had 15 bithdays in my life( feb.29) My doctor asked me what i am on(vitamins) I can out bike(bicycle) most 30 and 40 year olds! 73's to all of you N8PPR
Why does the coffee have to reach the surface temperature of the sun before it's served?  If it's going to burn your hands it will burn your lips so lower the temperature and use one cup - no sleeve.
Never mind the double cupping. Why do they leave the faucet behind the counter running constantly?

To the people complaining that reusable mugs cost too much--you don't have to buy them at Starbucks. There are plenty of cheaper ones elsewhere.
The only "green" Starbucks is washing is the cash they pull in from the suckers like you that have bought into their whole "our coffee is better and cooler" thing they're selling, idiot-boy.
Starbucks is one of the worst corporate greenwashers. Back in the day when I used to go there to study, I'd bring my own cup and the barista would use a plastic cup to measure everything out (they need the green lines) and THEN dump the whole drink into my travel mug. Yay- I've wasted a plastic cup and now I have a travel mug to wash when I get home.

I appreciate your bringing light to this issue but if it irks you so much, maybe you could cut down to, say, 8 trips a week. That'll show 'em.
I've only been working as a barista at Starbucks for 7 months now, and we've already changed our policy 3 TIMES about double-cupping.  When I started, no double-cupping.  Then it went back and forth 2 more times.  We're no longer double-cupping now because corporate finally made a statement about it.  I still get several folks asking for double cups now, and as Starbucks trains us to do, I "just say yes."  If your local Starbucks is still double-cupping your drink, they probably aren't following standards in other areas of the business as well.  Either way, here's a little trick a gentleman that comes in every morning does: take that second cup from your double-cupped drink, and bring it back the next day to get a "refill" hot coffee.  At my store, a refill hot coffee is only 53 cents! (we also have refills for iced tea)
I agree that Starbucks could do more to be "green". I have observed many plastic milk jugs being added to "trash" bag and disposed of like trash when they could be taken to the a local collection site for recyclable materials.
As a caffeine-a-holic myself, I really enjoyed this article! Starbuck's is a rare treat for me from time to time, but there's absolutely something to be said for curling up with a nice hot white chocolate mocha on a cold gray day, in spite of the price (I've never been double-cupped at my usual Starbuck's, and the cardboard sleeves are on the counter for the consumer to to take and use if they want, or not).  Great article, and good luck on getting your next caffeine fix!
I agree that Starbucks could do more to be "green". I have observed many plastic milk jugs being added to "trash" bag and disposed of like trash when they could be taken to the a local collection site for recyclable materials.
Why does everyone hate on Starbucks? Everyone has an addiction. For some it's Starbucks. If they want to spend the money so be it. I am a barista and am a costomer more than I work. Let it go people.
Great article....I actually laughed OUT LOUD (LOL!). I had a similar addiction to Starbucks too. I have now officially boycotted them. Not because they double cup, have dread-locked baristas that also call ME dude (I'm female), but because I think their quality control stinks. I can order 10 Venti Vanilla Lattes with soy, and only about 4 are drinkable/edible. They either taste like raspberry, orange, or some other foreign flavor besides vanilla. I've contacted corporate numerous times and get a free coffee coupon (which you get at the store if they don't make your drink right anyway...so what's the point!) I stopped complaining because I simply don't go there anymore. With the money I've saved, I can pay off my car early I think...
If you think providing a nutritionless, expensive, mildly carcinogenic drug to people will EVER be green, big tobacco has a marketing job for you.
Great prophetic article, truly practicing "freedom," as everyone else by fuming over his habit and the cost.  I find it humorous when everyone posting here (at least 9 out of 10) are hypocritical.  You all do something wasteful, whether it be driving to a place you can walk, i.e. a mile or less from where you live.  Come on are you really so lazy you need to drive, I don't think so, consider it patriotic.  Our soldiers are fighting and dying to stabilize a region partially responsible for the volatile energy system.  Letting water run, while brushing your teeth, throwing trash on the ground the list could go on and on.  Practice what you preach and preach what you practice.  (As a veteran, I can now practice freedom of speech and other democratic values I fought to preserve without being able to exercise during my service.)
Oh, lighten up, Sheri.  He was trying to approach the subject with a touch of humor.  You obviously missed the humor, and chose instead to make Don an offender for a word.  And your greener-than-thou attitude, while currently quite fashionable, really sucks.

And Kristin, some people go to Starbucks ten times a week, not because their life is pathetic, but because they enjoy it.  If that bothers you so much, then quit working at Starbucks and get a job somewhere else.  Do something you believe in, for a change.  Life's too short not to.
as far as the recyclable items are concerned Starbucks does not own the building that the stores are in. I know the store I work in has asked for a recycle bin and our landlord ignores our request. So that is a big reason why alot of stores may not recycle

As far as the double cupping it is the just say yes policy. I have many customers give me a look or ask for their second cup if I do not double cup the cup.  Starbucks is doing the best it can right now. As well as going through huge changes.  As our Ceo put it "we are putting our feet back in the mud." If any one has any idea go to the website Mystarbucksidea. com and let us know.  

Also I read through these and someone said our coffee is not fair trade.  If you ask any barista or go to the web site, you will find out that the coffee is fair trade.  We use C.A.F.E practices with all of our coffees. Starbucks takes a lot of pride in that. So before you say something do your research.  

Side note.  We changed our milk yes. But it was to 2 percent milk in all drinks unless we are told otherwise. Not nonfat milk.
Great article...i'm currently trying to wean myself off of Starbucks to save some bucks (Gas isn't free!).  As a former Barista, many customers preferred a double cup to a sleeve.  Managers/Supervisors always tried to correct this action as the double cup (in their words) caused the cups to be unstable (especially the Venti size) and possible tip over.  The sleeve was "better".  Neither are really paper friendly.  
I agree with the $15 travel mug pricing and the $.10 discount.  There should be a larger incentive to bring your own cup.  Lots of independent coffee places offer a larger discount on own cups.  Maybe the 'Bucks needs to take a tip from the little guys?
DON
BRILLIANT ARTICLES AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONDEMING YOU FOR DRINKING A STARBUCKS WHILE TRY TO SAVE MONEY FOR YOUR KID'S COLLEGE FUND TELL THEM TO GET A LIFE I WONDER (WHAT THERE VICES ARE)?????
Here's a novel idea. Instead of $15 mugs, Why doesn't Starbucks sell a universal sleeve for $2 bucks made out of recycled plastic or rubber with true insulating properties that people could carry with them or store in there car, pocket or purse when not in use. It would be like a coozie. They could be branded them Starbucks or have artists come up with a variety of designs to offer customers a choice. Designer coffee in a recycled cup with a designer sleeve. If you bring your own sleeve you save 25 cents a cup and a donation would be made to a conservation charity.
i really enjoyed your article, very funny!  I moved to the US from Canada and really miss Tim Horton's.  I am one of the people that spent the $15 on a Starbucks mug because they are really good travel mugs, they dont leak.  I have used this mug for 3 years now, you should really go and get one.
I guess I am an eco-terrorist... I always ask for a double cup. It keep the coffee hot a lot longer.I live in Chicago and have a couple block walk after I pick up my coffee.
Starbucks coffee is AWFUL! If you took an HONEST poll at the place with their face and voice disguised, I bet half would say they don't really like it, but it's "cool" to go there ... urgh.
PS - It sounds pathetic that the dreadlock guy calling you "dude" making you feel young, and how to afford college ... yada yada yada ... the best part of the article was the comments ... people are mean!
I could chastise you for drinking at Starbucks so often but you already have 100 of those.

Appartently it is an issue with the cup design so why doesn't Starbucks use 20% recycled material in their cups? Or more, say 60%? Then we could double cup and still save trees by comparison.

Great writing, thanks.
Hysterical!!
I'm a coffee house owner, and I can tell you that we use non-CFC styrofoam because, amazingly enough, when you look at all the facts (energy to produce all the way to decompsoing) it really is a smarter choice for the environment; and it doesn't burn your hands! We're just a tiny place, but we do our best to conserve and recycle. When we bought our cafe one of the first to-do's was to get rid of the styrofoam. Then... We read a great article from Jamba Juice (yes, the big guy) about the studies they did on cups. And non-CFC styrofoam was the winner. Check it out on-line. To limit paper consumption, we also sell our brewed gourmet coffee for $1.00 if you bring in your own mug; and it doesn't have to be one of ours. As a consumer, think about what you are purchasing, how it's packaged, where is comes from, and who it comes from. It's up to all of us to be informed consumers, and to make the right choices.

And to get a better latte and save a few bucks for your kids' education, try a local coffee house. Odds are it will be cheaper, you'll get more personalized service, and probably a better cup of coffee.
CAN SOME ONE SEND ME STARBUCK'S EMAIL ADDRESS FOR THEIR RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER?
I KNOW HOW TO MAKE A PAPER CUP THAT WILL KEEP PEOPLE FROM BURNING THEIR HANDS. THANK YOU
You briefly touched on another issue with starbucks that I find to be quite disturbing.  For such a presumed "eco-friendly" company, I was surprised to learn that most starbucks don't engage in any type of recyling whatsoever.  Glass bottles, plastic milk cartons, cardboard boxes - all go into the same trash bag! How can we shed light on this issue and get them to RECYCLE!


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