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What’s up with the prairie dresses?

Posted: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:15 AM

Three weeks into covering the polygamous ranch raid story, I keep hearing from colleagues throughout NBC News who want to know more about how members of the sect live.

Much of what is interesting about their lives simply won’t fit into a two-minute television news story because the legal battle, charges and counter charges crowd out what many might consider intriguing information.

VIDEO: Members of the polygamous sect speak out in an extended video with NBC's Don Teague

I spent several hours earlier this week speaking with parents at the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints ranch in Texas. It was my third long day on the ranch.

Here are some of the things members of the sect told me about life on the YFZ Ranch – which stands for Yearn For Zion – in Eldorado, Texas:

  • They drink coffee, which I know many mainstream Mormons don’t do. I was shocked when they offered me a cup, but happy to drink it (they avoid carbonated and sugary drinks, but have no problem with caffeine).


  • They won’t talk about what goes on inside their temple.

  • They do consider themselves Mormons. Yes, I know, their sect broke away from the Mormon Church more than a hundred years ago, and mainstream Mormons don’t consider FLDS Mormons. But FLDS members do consider themselves Mormons.

  •  They consider jailed FLDS leader Warren Jeffs a prophet appointed directly by God. When I asked if he’s still their leader in jail, they laughed. "Of course," they said. Each public room on the ranch has a series of pictures hanging on the wall. They begin with Joseph Smith, then Brigham Young, and cover several decades of prophets…ending with a picture of their current prophet, Jeffs.

  • What’s up with the hair? Nothing, they said. I had heard there was some sort of class system among the FLDS, and you could tell certain things about the women by their hair. "Nope," they said. "We just like having long hair, but have to wear it up. Some of us braid it, or twist it into a bun, but there’s nothing more to it than that."

  • They remain evasive when the subject of underage marriage comes up. While they won’t confirm of knowing about more than one or two "possibly"16-year-old brides, they said brides younger than that are extremely rare. That is, if there are any, which they won’t confirm (evasive, remember?). What they do say is that all women/girls are given the choice of saying "no" to an arranged marriage. And most choose to wait until they’re at least 18 years old, if not older.

  • They don’t call them "arranged marriages." They call them "placement marriages."

  • Exactly who a woman/girl marries is decided by a combination of church leaders and their parents. They claim, again, the bride has the right to say "no" to the marriage.

  • While not confirming the existence of underage brides, they do express dismay that the state of Texas raised the legal marriage age from 14 to 16 years (with parental consent) after the YFZ ranch was established in 2004. By the way, the state of Texas considers a 16-year-old who marries on the YFZ ranch a victim of sexual abuse, because the state doesn’t recognize "spiritual marriage," or multiple wives as valid. Seventeen is the age of consent for a minor to have unmarried sex with an adult in Texas.

  • They admit to having multiple wives. It’s what they do (though there are some men who only have one wife).

  • Wives married to the same man call themselves "sister wives." The multiple children created by these families call all of the women "mother." That’s part of the reason Texas is DNA testing the children – because they’re still having a hard time sorting these families out.

  • They absolutely hate having the ranch called a "compound." "Do you see any walls here?" they asked. They call it a ranch. There are cattle (dairy) to prove it, and they hope to get a few horses someday.

  • Why do they talk like that? Robotic, drugged, hypnotized, brain-washed, creepy – all words other people told me came to mind when they first heard the women speak after returning to the ranch last week. I’m not sure what the answer is, but I’ve discovered the timid, methodical speech pattern goes away after the person you’re speaking with begins to relax a little. After a few minutes, speaking to a woman on the ranch is like speaking to any other somewhat reserved woman…except of course for the hair and the pastel prairie dresses.

  • So, what’s up with the pastel prairie dresses? They said they like pastel prairie dresses.

  • Are they really afraid of the color red? "We don’t wear red," one YFZ ranch woman told me. "But would your children think I’m the devil if I wore a red shirt?" I asked. She laughed at me. "No," she said, "but we don’t wear it." I had driven my red car onto the ranch (all three times in fact). "Is my red car a problem?" I asked. "It’s a car," was the answer.

VIDEO: Polygamist sect kids placed in foster homes


  • It really irks ranch residents that we in the media keep saying they’re shut off and unfamiliar with the "outside world." I’ve spoken with ranch members who take their children to airports to watch the planes land, who snowboard, shop in stores, drive cars, etc. The FLDS sect has somewhere between 10,000 and 20,000 members across the country. They definitely keep to themselves, but most of them don’t live on closed-off "compounds" (I know, they hate that) like the YFZ ranch. Ranch residents said they move freely between YFZ and other communities throughout the country.

  • Women said they can leave at will. They said they can come and go at will and take their children with them. Some attend college and some have worked jobs in the "outside world."

  • I haven’t met anyone on the ranch who owns a TV. They said it’s not forbidden, but they don’t want to expose their children to the sex and violence.

  • Most families on the ranch have computers with Internet access. One of the fathers I spoke with said he doesn’t let his kids on the Internet for the same reasons he doesn’t have a TV.

  • The kids go to school on the ranch in a nice building, with separate classrooms for boys and girls. It’s not a year-round school – kids are basically on traditional school schedules.

  • Most families said they have family devotional time in the morning and the evening. They pray, and the parents talk to their kids about leading good lives.

  •  When children come home from school, they do community-based chores. They work in the gardens, pick up litter from the roads, help out with the dairy cattle, etc.

  • The primary job for women is to do "housework." Cooking, cleaning, caring for the kids full-time.

  • Men work on the ranch. They build roads, buildings, tend fields, make furniture, and they’re in the process of installing a sewage treatment plant. They hope to pave the roads someday, eventually turning their collection of about 20 individual homes into a larger community. They think of it as a town, one that was growing rapidly until two weeks ago.

  • Where does the money come from? Labor is provided by men on the ranch. Also FLDS members from around the country to come to work on specific projects. The church and individual FLDS members provide operating funds. Many FLDS members own businesses that make plenty of money, which is given to the church broadly and the ranch specifically. One of the women who testified in a hearing last week said she had no idea who owns the home she lives in.

  • Men and women on the ranch said there is nothing more important to them than caring for and loving their children. Many have told me that they would do anything state authorities ask of them to regain custody of their kids. Despite saying they consider the ranch "Zion," and a peaceful, happy environment, they said they’ll leave and move wherever they have to if it means getting their children back. The ranch has even created its own website to show you pictures of their kids and how happy they say they are.

Much of the above sharply contrasts with the picture of alleged physical and sexual abuse painted by state investigators. The courts will ultimately decide which version of the truth is closer to reality. I can’t say whether what ranch residents tell me is true or not, but I thought you’d be interested in what they said.

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It's hard not to feel sorry for these people, having their lives torn apart. It also makes you wonder, if they are living such strict and straight lives, why are they now face their families being dissipated? I know if it were me, it might make me take a second look at my practices and even my parenting skills. They have to know that they are doing something wrong right? -If not just the plural marriages.
I can't agree with the beliefs and lifestyle of these people but I'm appalled that the state has taken away all the children and babies. That is not right. These people are citizens of this country and until there is proof of abuse of these children they should be with their mothers. I have an 18 month-old and I can't imagine him being taken away from me. My heart goes out to these mothers.
There's a big gap between what the State/media are saying and what these woman who live there are saying. I think most likely the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I don't doubt that abuses have occurred to some of the children, but I also don't think those things have happened to all the children. It just seems like the parents and kids aren't willing to talk and work with the people trying to help. They are viewing the outside world as trying to destroy their lives, rather than save some of the children from incredibly wrong behavior. Unless the FLDS church institutionally supports child abuse, they should cooperate.
I FIND THESE PEOPLE WAY OF LIFE, NON-THREATNING AND ADMIRABLE.
JUST BECAUSE WE ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO DEMONIZE IT AND/OR FEAR IT.
I,VE SEEN JEWISH COMMUNITIES WHERE MEN WEAR THEIR HAIR IN WEIRD HAIR CUTS AND WOMEN WEARING WIGS and THEY KEEP TO THEMSELVES. SO WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL!!!
BIG BROTHER SEEMS TO BE GETTING AHEAD OF ITSELF.
I THINK TRANSPARENCY IS GOOD, HOWEVER WE MUST NOT TRAMPLE SOMEONES CIVIL RIGHTS!!!
The life they portray is simple and nice. Thats fine with me.
The part that concerns me is child brides, and where does that stop. Are the smaller children being molested.
Television and Internet exposure is a thing we all need to worry about. But why do the men get to have this, and the children are kept "innocent" seems like if the life is really what they say it is, the men would abide with no TV or Net, also.
This is in stark contrast to what escapees from FLDS communities have said publicly. Those interested in the truth should read "Escape" by Carolyn Jessop, who escaped Colorado City with her eight children. I'm sure there are other books by other escapees and former FLDS members. Brainwashing starts at a very early age, and it's a frightening world inside an FLDS town or compound. To leave, a woman does actually have to "escape." I hope CPS in Texas stays strong and never lets those children go back!
I saw a news clip on TV last week that said they get welfare money and the more children the bigger the check.  Can anyone verify that?  Ultimately I don't want to support there way of life.  
I don't know who to believe and who not to believe in this whole mess.  I DO know that it broke my heart to see these women openly sobbing and hardly able to speak when their children were taken away from them.  As a mom, it was hard to watch; I wouldn't want someone to take MY kids awy.
Please keep trying to get the story strate. I think the insite was very informative. I sure dont understand the State. I am sure 99.9% of these people have done no wrong that requires the state to take their kids. So why punish all of them. My heart go's out to the mothers and the kids.
I have met some of these people, in some ways they seem just like everyone else but in other ways they are quite different.I NEVER got a feeling they were sincere when addressing any issues with me. I don't even think thet are sincere with each other. there always seemed like there was a hidden agenda. After seeing current events I guess there was.
Thank you for providing a truly fair and balanced report on this group of people.
A question comes to mind however.  You report that they are irked about being labeled as closed off from the outside world.  Yet three of their men gave an interview in which they said they didn't know polygamy was illegal.  Seems a bit contradictory.
COME ON..........I WENT TO THEIR WEBSITE.  THEY NEED TO USE THE MONEY THEY MILKED FROM THE GOVERNMENT FOR LEGAL EXPENSES.  IF THAT WERE ANYONE ELSE THE STATE WOULD HAVE WENT AFTER THE DADS TO PAY FOR THE CHILDREN.  IT REALLY UPSETS ME THAT THESE PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH SO MUCH (CHILD ABUSE, RAPE, SPOUSE ABUSE, ETC..).  IF THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS, SOMETHING IS REALLY WRONG WITH OUR LEGAL SYSTEM.
Fantastic insights - prior to this, I knew two things about the FLDS - Jack, and Squat. Other than the constant media appraisal of the "compound" etc, I had zero knowledge. Thank you for making these people real instead of a statistic, and sharing some of their stories.
I feel terrible about these poor kids, and the mothers they were separated from. Too few people realize, there were PLENTY of good families that loved each other very much...all they see are the differences between their chosen lifestyle and mainstream lives. I hope everything works out for the best, and for the happiness of everyone involved.
I wonder where all those outspoken critics against gay marriage are...you know, the ones who cry, "Marriage is between one man and one woman"?
Or is this okay because they are god fearing, straight people?
Say what? I'm sorry, but I think you've been given the run-around. They consider their leader to be a God and Prophet, thus it's easy to tell they're a cult, given who in their right mind would believe a man is a God when he's not? I bet they all been told to lie if they are questioned, and I find it odd they claimed they have been outside their ranch yet have no idea of the Texas state laws regarding it is illegal for children under 16 to marry and to marry more than once? Yep, you've been had. You can't trust anything that comes out of their mouths.
While the women stated they wore long hair just because they liked it, I doubt that. They are no doubt taught that uncut hair makes them more holy and if they cut their hair they would be considered evil.  There are current religions that support this teaching such as the United Pentecost Church (UPCI).  In order to be accepted in this organization/church, women cannot cut or trim their hair.  Neither can they wear jewelry or slacks. All of this behavior is a subtle form of intimidation, power and control.  More often than not,these so called "religious" rules are directed toward women.  Men dress as they please, but women are not allowed that freedom.  It is sad that these women do not realize what is being done to them.
Do they receive child welfare payments?
Physically "free to come and go" is very different from truly being (and feeling) free to come and go.  By creating a stigma of what the world and its inhabitants outside of the church and its grounds, the church has created such fear and mistrust that these women cannot be free to leave.  They may not have been taught that the devil lives in every one of us and will get them if they leave, but they have taught enough about the "wickedness" of the outside world to make it next to impossible for these women and children to trust and be comfortable among us "outsiders".  
When I see this type of control by a group that claims to be Christian, it shows me that Christian religious groups STILL use faith in Christ as a reason to not act in accordance to Jesus' example.  Jesus was a tolerant, understanding, and loving man who tried to break down barriers of prejudice in his own time.  How can on truly call themselves a Christian if they put up those barriers, as these church leaders and members have?
Boy oh boy, I can't wait untill the state tells the rest of us what to do...pseudo fashists.
This whole thing was set off by a complaint of sexual abuse from a 16 year old girl. Now the girl can't be found. Isn't that what they said about Waco? "We need to save the children?" Isn't anyone paying attention?
Why were they not asked the simple mathematics question:  If some men have 3 or more wives, that means many other men can have none.  Who decides which men may have wives, and when, and how many, and what happens to the boys who will not be given wives?
EXCEPT FOR THE "MARRIAGE?" LEAVE THESE PEOPLE ALONE AND CONCENTRATE ON THE MUSLEMS WHO WANT TO KILL US.ALL THESE PEOPLE WANT TO DO IS BE LEFT ALONE.
As if anyone who was involved in this sort of abuse, seeing the shock it's causing to those on the outside, would want to admit to knowing anything about it.
Funny. They don't let their kids watch TV because of the sex & violence. But when the girls turn 14,15 or 16..they get to learn about it with a 30+ year old grown man behind close doors... interesting way to live.. reminds me of 3rd world radical Islam.. Do they stone criminals to death too? Or are they incapable of committing crimes because they choose to live a higher path?...
Do they vote in US elections?
 Just commenting that a few days ago I saw a so called woman expert on these issues on TV, saying that the children are not allowed to smile nor laugh and play. I had already seen on the news before where the children were playing with balls and running around and laughing. Maybe they are abused maybe not, misled by their leaders for sure, but so are many of the other denominations people. Heard of Obama's church? How about Muslims, Catholics, and all the others, we believe and live as the leaders we believe in do. Even after your "spiritual" leaders are found with prostitutes or trying to get into the panties of the wives and women they are counceling, or boys and girls they are molesting.
All they have to ask for is forgiveness. How nice of you stupid, idiotic, morons. But you can forgive me for calling you mindless pigs right? After all, you are forgiving belivers in the lord right? So before you make up stories and condemn the lifestyles of others, check yourself and whoever told you that you are righteous above all others. Maybe your being brainwashed, dummies.
are the women free to move back and forth to the "ranch" and town? Are they programmed to talk as though they are in a vacuum? They should be forced to live as all others (me) if they are collecting welfare or any social security. Hard for me to believe they are eligible for any Gov. programs.
Lay off our fellow americans "free" choice to wear what they wish.  You should ponder muslim women who cant show their faces or speak to men outside their family.  Come on they wear all black in the hottest places around!  America is a bunch of psuedo facists trying to force others to follow legislated beliefs with an iron hand.  Better hope your kids arent next.
Very interesting lifestyle...I understand about not exposing to video, cell phones, some t.v., but what about other races of the world. For instance have they ever layed eyes on a African American? What is told about other races besides their own?
I lived in Utah in the 60s when I was a 13 and found the Morman religion and poletics to be quite easy going and the people very welcoming and friendly. I am a Catholic but that did not seem to be a problem while living there and noone ever tried to convert me to their religion. I am not familiar with the ranch in Texas or the FLDS but if they are anything like the Mormans in Utah, I think that most of what you read in the press regarding this situation is just a bunch of hipe and bad treatment of a group of people that choose a different way of life from the dominant US culture.  Regarding the marrage of underage girls to older men, the law should just treat this cases as individual cases like any other legal matter. In any case where there is a sexual relationship between an underage person and an adult the law handles it as a sexual crime and deals with the adult person according to the laws of that particular state but does not involve or charge any other people that were not involved especially, family members. Additionally, every effort is taken to keep any child or children born from such a union with the mother. Asside from cases regarding underage unions, there does not seem to be any signs of any other forms of child abuse. Therefore, I would say that let these people return to their way of life, leave them to themselves and deal with the each case of underage sexual cases seporately. This activity.\, by the state of Texas, is nothing short of group or collective persecution and should not be happening. If any children are placed in foster care, the state should make every effort to find Morman families to place them in.  Utah is a very big state and I am sure that, if asked by Texas, they would find good families to place them in.
America is once again showing it's intolerence for people outside of the norm. Who  can say or determine who lives wrong them or us. We are the ones that have a higher crime rate etc.
As a woman, it hurts me to the core to see these women that do not know anything outside their bubble. It is exactly like slavery. But with the slaves oblivious to it. Because that is all they know. I could not beleive that these women come from generations of inslaved women that do not know better. How could a man allow a sick OLD man have his way with his young daughter? But if what I have heard if true, is that they do not bond with the children. And if they have a choice not to marry old men. Have any married the young guys that are their age?? If not, why. I would rather marry a young guy like myself back then when I was young. Not an OLD man. YUCK!!
I strongly disagree with these people's beliefs. They state they don't allow their children to watch tv or use internet to protect them from sex; who is protecting their children from sex inside the ranch. Young girls are being married off to men old enough to be their grandfathers. These poor girls have no idea what marriage is about, or the duties expected of them. In my opinion these people or no different than any other pettifile or child molester.
THANKS TO THE REPORTER POSTING THE FLDS WEBSITE ABOUT THE SITUATION..AFTER WATCHING THE PICTURES OF THE KIDS WHEN THEY THEY WERE TAKEB AWAY..IT'S SO HORROBLE THAT THE STATE HAS TO PUT THESE CHILDREN THROUGH THIS...THE POOR CHILDREN AND THEIR MOTHERS, GRANDMOTHERS WERE TORN ...THE CHILDREN ARE SUFFERING AND LOOK SCARED OF ALL THE MILITARY STYLE OPERATION THERE!!! ARE WE IN FREE UNITED STATES??? OR IN A CHINA ATTACKING TIBET LIKE SITUATION??? ARE WE ATTACKING THEM BECAUSE OF THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS??? IT WAS BASED ON A PHONY PHONE CALL?? NOW THE STATE ARE BEING HORRIBLE PUTTING THESE POOR INNOCENT CHILDREN IN FOSTER HOME WITH PEOPLE OF DIFFERNT LIEFSTYLES??? WHAT A PITY?

IF THERE ARE MEN ABUSING THE KIDS THERE, THEN JAILES THEM, BUT LEAVE THE MOTHERS AND CHILDREN ALONE!!! WHY TRAUMATIZING AND MAKE THEM SUFFER...UNTIL NOW IT HAS NOT BEEN PROOVEN THAT THERE HAS BEEN ABUSED...WHERE IS "INNOCENT UNTIL PROOVEN GUILTY IN AMERICA???  WHY SEND THESE POOR SCARED KIDS AS FAR AS 500 MILES IN FOSTER HOMES??? PEOPLE OF AMERICA, YOU DO NOT OWN YOUR CHILDREN, THE CPS AND THE STATE CAN JUST TAKE THEM AWAY FROM YOU , BASED ON A PHONY CALL!!!

I haven't heard if the State Welfare Dept. makes any payments to these women for the children?  They don't seem to be giving the names of the fathers.  The state of Texas has the right to protect these children from abuse, rape or early motherhood since their mothers don't seem to be protecting them.
These women claim to love their children.  If these women are so insistent about getting their chldren back, why won't they co-operate with the authorities?  They won't supply names, ages, or birthdates of the children.  To me, that doesn't show much love.
I believe this is some what like the Amish. They are such a tight knit group that the "outside world" doesn't really know what is truth and fiction. I believe ther is a lot of brainwashing among the "YFZ" group but at the same time I think it is possible that the ones who have "escaped" may embelish some.
while I am not mormon, FLDS, whatever, I do think the whole thing is a bit ridiculous, and it appears that the state of Texas just hates them and was waiting for an excuse to do this.  The pictures look like a warzone, to me it's unacceptable to burst in with tanks and armed soldiers terrifying people, taking children away, and rummaging through thier stuff like it's a major drug bust.  I do think the Mormons, FLDS, ARE rather wierd, and I'm sure some of the "marriages" did involve underage brides, (and that's wrong), BUT the situation should have been handled differently.  If the state of Texas was that concerned, they should have set up an office there, or had people from the state check on the children periodically and let them know that certain things are not ok, and they don't have to put up with it, and they can leave and seek help.  Anyone could have left at any time, there were no walls around the ranch, compound, whatever you want to call it.  I understand they were concerned about child abuse, but another question is WHY did they then take "children" who were 18, 19? Why indeed take children who are 17, the legal age of consent?  I think America needs to address the double standard of WHY do we allow SOME girls who are, say, 13, 14, to have a baby and KEEP it, give her food stamps, etc, call her a "woman", and then OTHER girls are called "children" at 17, 18, and taken away from thier family, when there's no PROOF that anything's even wrong other than a vague phone call that may not even have happened. Also, we may think it's "weird" or "wrong", but that's THIER religion and way of life, who are WE to judge?  To me, they're a bit wierd, but not much stranger than the average settler in the "old west".  And my final thought, if the state of Texas knew about thier lifestyle and didn't like it, and knew they had multiple wives, etc, WHY did they wait until NOW to do something about it?    
Although I do not agree with thier theology I still have a serious problem with all this. Is this not still the United States. What about religeous freedom, the right to be believe differently. These people have already been judged, on hear-say. Do they not have the right to practice their religon, whether we agree with them or not? What about being innocent until proven quilty? If this was a Muslim compound what kind of reaction would we be seeing from the general population and the media? A land of tolerant? Don't seem so. The most troubling from all of this is the statement that they are brain-washing their children. Who set the standard on what we are to teach chrildren? After respect for authority, caring for our fellow man, and providing for our families do we not have the right to teach them what we place our faith in and how that faith is expressed in our lives? I am a member of the Southern Baptist Church, and place my faith in God, attend church faithfully and also required my chrildren to attend and learn all the lessons that were taught as well as memorize parts of the Bible. Now, to millions of people in the U.S. I have brain-washed my children, they were not given a free choice in what they believe and because I may have jerked one of them up and spanked their bottom I would also be quilty of child abuse. We must understand that when ever we judge and convict a group, even though they may be a "fringe" group, after they are gone the judging and convicting is just that much closer to the "main stream". Also, I am a "country boy" from Tennessee without a college degree which I quest also makes my reasoning irrational because of a flawed upbringing. Oh, and my kids? All have a college degree, two have a bachelor degree, another is working on a masters, and the fourth has a doctorate degree. We place people into groups so we can judge them as a group and react to all in that group in the way we have decided that we should act if they belong to that group, which relieves us of the responsibility of getting to know individuals and understanding that it is being different that makes us interesting. This group today, my group tomorrow, and your group - when?      
i find it funny that they won't allow television or the internet to the 'children' because of sex, when they're marrying them off as children and having sex as children.
This country was founded, on part, for the freedom of religion.  I am a retired peace officer and still work in the legal field in Texas.  I have witnessed first hand the ability of the State to "invent" reasons to invade the rights of people that they believe are different are that may seem to be a threat to the known statndard that we except. A criminal that is a leader does not make the entire population under that leader criminals.  The State can make up any story they want and the main steam media will report, without fully investigating, the story as being true.  Have we considered the history of the state officials that prmoted the story and who is the confidental informer.  Does he or she really exist.
Propaganda, is what this is, they won't give they're last names, the guys won't talk b/c they will be asked questions about how they like to sleep with little girls, they get their money also from filing for government welfare benefits, the girls lied about their ages b/c they are preganent...this is a bunch of crap...I guess if your a pediphile why end up on Chris Matthews show "to catch a predator" why not just join the FDLS and become a "religous pediphile" instead b/c it's all happy go lucky in their "compound" wake up America these people are sexual deviants, If some scumbag tried to sleep with one of my underage nieces me and my other brothers would probably kill them before the police got them....
The people of this community don't sound much different from the people of the Amish/Mennonite communities here in the midwest.  Not terribly different from my own family.  My daughters & I wear dresses and our hair long.  Our dresses are whatever we find from yard sales & 2nd hand stores--I haven't the sewing skills to make our own.  Most of the things in retail stores are indecent for grown women let alone young girls.  We live a home-based life.  We have a small farm with livestock and a large garden.  We homeschool.  We attend a fairly mainstream church of the Christian faith--Assembly of God.  The way in which we choose to live our day to day life is not required or taught by our church, just the way we choose to live.  We have no TV, but we do have a computer with internet access.  We interact with our neighbors, but are content to just live our lives and raise our children with as little influence from much of this society.  Why would I want to expose their young minds to violence, disrespect and sexual overtones of much of the "common" things in society today.  Families today are made up of many combinations of adults--married male/female, single female or male with or without a girlfriend/boyfriend, same sex or opposite sex--raising children as they see fit to the best of their ability.  Abuse--mental, physical, sexual--can happen in any of them.  If none of this is happening, leave the children alone with their parents.  It is the parents responsibility to raise their children as they see fit.
Just my thoughts!
Anonymous mother of five in the midwest
Thank you for this article. Whatever happened to freedom to be left alone in this country? I wouldn't choose this church's way of life, but I don't like the government interfering with their freedoms of religion and association. I have yet to read any evidence of abuse.

It makes me angry when a faith group is singled out by authorities, meanwhile we give out condoms and birth control in public high schools, and allow "private" sex clubs in many cities. Something is wrong here.
What concerns me as much as the sexual abuse of minors (come on, let's call it what it is, pedophilia) is the beating of women and children and what one person who had left the compound and spoke on NBC said was done to her baby(ies?) which was beating them and then waterboarding the infants to break their spirit. If it's torture to an adult, how much worse is it for an infant, and how do we know how many they may have actually killed this way either by intent or accident? You can't do things like that without taking away the risk the child could die. And beating an infant is abuse no matter how you look at it.  This group needs extensive investigating, and any men treating their wives or children by beating and/or waterboarding must be imprisoned, where maybe they could get much of the same treatment to break their spirit! If that's how they "love" their children, it's beyond sick.
when do the children have time to play and what do they do for entertainment?  How do they learn about reality outside of the "Ranch".  the women seem to be subserviant.  when will they wake up?
Thanks don for the insight on some of the personal asspects of the group.  I was wondering about the women's hair.  I am not sure I believe all of what they say, but who am I to doubt their convictions.  Each side has a view.  Great job.
I remember reading they didn't want their kids taken away because they wanted them to remain pure. Hah. They are not learning "purity" on the ranch!
And prior to this, they say they didn't talk to strangers because they didn't want to sound weird. Gee, no chance of that now,eh?
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT ANYONE WOULD EVER FORCE AT 13 YEAR FEMALE CHILD TO "COMMIT" TO SOME OLDER MENTALLY SICK MAN AND BE FORCED TO HAVE CHILDREN!  IT IS AGAINST THE LAW AND ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO PUT YOUR CHILDREN THROUGH THIS HELL SHOULD GO TO JAIL WITH ALL THE MENTALLY DERANGED MEN WHO DID THIS SICK MANIPULATION AND SEXUAL ASSAULT AGAINST THESE CHILDREN!


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