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Hard lessons in hurricane's aftermath

Posted: Monday, September 15, 2008 10:48 AM

Hurricane Ike

MIAMI – With the destructive arrival of Hurricane Ike in the Caribbean and then in Texas, it's clear that many hurricane lessons from previous storms still need to be reviewed and heeded next time.

In Cuba, where Ike made two landfalls, evacuations were carried out effectively and the loss of life was low compared to other countries. But, houses were in such poor shape and so unprotected that hundreds of thousands of homes and apartments were badly damaged or destroyed and could take years to replace. Something as simple as hurricane roofing straps or window shutters might have helped immensely in many cases – if such materials were ever available. 

SLIDESHOW: Ike's impact
After covering scores of hurricanes in more than three decades I have come to learn that these storms sometimes have a strange way of fooling the experts, often in the last hours before or after landfall, and that there are no acceptable odds in gambling whether you'll narrowly escape the storm. I also know that hurricanes are always dangerous and should never be underestimated.

How many people in Texas now regret riding out this latest storm and swear they'll never do it again. I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard that over the years, but take no joy in saying that. The terror and pain in the eyes of storm surge and hurricane eye-wall survivors is hard to forget. I will tell you that I know that fear personally.

In recent years, hurricane evacuation and recovery plans in the United States have gotten so much better, particularly after the Katrina disaster in New Orleans. Florida has been at the forefront of this development and now many other states, along with the federal government, have joined to improve the plan. The coordinated evacuation effort in Louisiana before Hurricane Gustav this year was light years ahead of what happened in 2005.

Texas also mobilized extensively before Ike struck, but those plans are only as good as the people who are willing to follow them. As always, many people this time thought they knew better than the authorities and stayed behind, only to find themselves climbing into a Coast Guard helicopter rescue basket to save their lives.

Emergency managers’ tough job
Emergency management officials have an extremely difficult and often thankless job, because they have to order mass evacuations while the sun is still shining and the winds are still calm. They base those decisions on forecasts from the National Hurricane Center which often change with the unstable atmospheric conditions. It takes time to move hundreds of thousands –sometimes millions – of people, so those evacuation orders have to be issued early.

And when they are proven wrong, because the storm moved away from the evacuation zone, there is then a lot of grumbling and talk of the "cry wolf" syndrome, leading to predictions that next time people won't be so willing to pack up and leave when ordered. For managers trying to save lives, it's the nightmare scenario.

VIDEO: Cuba faces tough recovery from hurricanes

Over the years, many people have asked me what I think about all the hurricanes I have covered and without a second thought I say that it's a complicated relationship. On the one hand, I find them fascinating scientifically and have tried to learn as much as I can about how their tracks and intensities are forecast. I have immense respect for the men and women at the National Hurricane Center and eagerly follow their work.

But, more and more I mostly despise hurricanes for what they do to so many people at once. I often say that if you are not injured, and your loved ones are safe, the worst part of a hurricane is not the storm, itself, but the traumatic years of rebuilding afterward.

When Hurricane Andrew demolished much of South Florida, where I live, I saw so many people struggling to recover – a half million people fighting for contractors and limited building supplies, all at the same time, while living in tiny trailers and spending hours and hours wrestling with their insurance companies. The emotional toll was sky-high, with many reports of domestic violence, depression and other distress.

For the reasons stated above, however, I also believe that covering hurricanes before and after their arrival is very important and serious work. Before landfall, our job is to warn residents in the storm zone of the upcoming dangers. Afterward, our job is to alert everyone else in the country about how badly many of their fellow citizens have been hurt, to report on their needs and to assess the recovery efforts.

Hurricane survival tips
For whomever it might help, I'd like to share a few hurricane survival observations made during so many years in the stormy tropics:

First, please get your house in order. A well-constructed and properly protected home is more likely to survive intact than a flimsy structure with no effort made to seal if from the winds. More than anything, shutters are essential – be they wood, aluminum, accordion-style, roll downs or hurricane-proof glass – for keeping the storm out of your house. Once the winds get inside, they have to get back out, and that is how roofs blow away and walls explode. Also, make sure you have enough water, food, flashlights, batteries, medicines and other supplies to last a week.

Second, there is no such thing as a "minimal" hurricane. I've heard many people say, "It's just a Category 1." Trust me, the eye-wall and surrounding winds of a Category 1 can knock you down, put a limb through your unprotected window, topple a tree onto your roof and snap a live power-line and lay it at your feet.

Just last week, my colleagues from the NBC News Havana office and I were in the town of Los Palacios in western Cuba just as the then-Category 1 Hurricane Ike roared through. We saw roofing materials blowing away, slogged through flooded streets, felt the sharp sting of rain on our faces and kept a wary lookout overheard for swaying telephone poles and wires. On the way into town, we had to stop our cars under a bridge for a while to protect ourselves from the fierce wind and blinding rain. All hurricanes are powerful and dangerous.

VIDEO: In the eye of the storm as Ike slams Cuba

Third, watch out for the water – all of it. The obliterated Mississippi coast during Katrina in 2005 taught us again about the unfathomable power of a hurricane storm surge. You must get far away.

And then there is the water that kills more people than anything else – the inland flooding resulting from torrential rain. Most people who die in hurricanes do so after the storm passes, often trapped in rushing water a long distance from the coast.

Fourth, don't be too sure of where the hurricane is going. As I wrote earlier, they can change direction quickly. Few remember this, but Hurricane Katrina hit South Florida first, before taking its fateful aim at the Gulf Coast.

Right after landfall north of Miami, it took an unexpected southerly turn, catching a lot of people by surprise, including my wife, who found herself unknowingly driving though the calm eye of the storm right into the raging winds of the eye-wall. Moments later, a huge tree fell on her car with her in it. She was badly shaken, but luckily escaped injury. I was even more shaken when I got her cell phone call telling me she was under that tree. I was miles away on the north side of the storm covering it for NBC Nightly News and couldn't get to her. There is no more helpless feeling in the world.

And lastly, a point worth repeating. When emergency managers order an evacuation it really IS time to go, hopefully to a safe place that you've picked in advance.

In Florida, it usually means moving inland only a few miles or more. Elsewhere along the Gulf Coast it's a longer trip to safety, but is still absolutely necessary.

If you need convincing, go to Google, type in the words "Waveland, Mississippi" and then hit "Images." Those scenes of utter devastation are real and occurred just three years ago.

If that doesn't do it, find someone who rode out Katrina there and somehow survived. Listen to his or her harrowing tale to know why they won't make that near-fatal error again. And, please, you shouldn't make that mistake, either.

NBC News Correspondent Mark Potter is based in Miami, Florida. He has covered hurricanes in Florida, the Gulf and Atlantic Coasts and throughout the Caribbean for more than 30 years. 
 
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Larry -- You are a perfect example of why they call Los Angeles La-la Land.

For the rest of you who put your lives, your childrens' lives, and your pets' lives in danger because you just have to live on the side of a cliff, on a spit of sand, or in a flood plain: I don't want to pay for you to rebuild in an area that may be wiped out again.  You are obviously too irresponsible to make an intelligent decision, and continuing to enable to you endanger others who are dependent on you is like putting a loaded gun into the hands of a chimpanzee.  Maybe if you can't afford to rebuild on your cliff or spit of sand, you'll choose somewhere safer.
I have read all of the above/below comments on people who chose to stay during a hurricane.  As an outsider it sure is easy to make judgment calls.  I was not born or raised in this area, however, I was born and raised up north and currently live in Louisiana.  As stated in a previous comment, this is all these people know.  They are very, very poor.  When I saw first hand how some people live, I thought I was in another country, not the USA.  Saying that, they DO NOT have the means to evacuate back to back.  A lot of people took their rent and bill money to evacuate for Gustav.  Now a week later they have to leave AGAIN.  Hello, they can not afford it.  I totally understand, so do not sit on your high horse and judge someone when you cannot possibly know the full story.  The news does NOT report the economic status of these people who chose to stay.  You say they should move, how?  Where should they go, when they barely live from paycheck to paycheck.  This is all they know.  It is a frustrating situation for all involved, from the powers that be (government) and also for the people who can't.  Like I stated before, I too used to judge the same way you are, but now that I have lived here for the past three years, I truly understand the statement, "Don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes".  So the better thing to do is ask God to bless and protect those that can't go.
You know I'm from Houston. I was just out of the mandatory evacuation areas. I feel it's really wrong for people who live no where near anykind of hurricane affected area to start making snotty comments. I didn't evacuate, I never have, I waited out the storm and then whent out and cleaned up debris. Most of the people who stayed have lived through previous storms in the same home as they where in for this one. Storms like Karla and Alecia which were much worse. Also, they didn't endanger first responders, they knew that they were going to be on their own for the storm and that's how it was. I read somebodies post that said they couldnt beleive that the government would allow people to live their. Well guess what 90% of the time Galveston and other coastlines are wonderful places to live. Somebody from Florida made that comment... a state that can entirely underwater if the right storm hit. What about places in the northern states that get temperatures below 0? Isn't that a life threatening condition, and that goes on for months! How about area's in California where there's earthquakes, or near volcanoes, or in the central US where there are tons of tornados? Well I guess that according to one reader we shouldnt be allowed to live anywhere then. IKE is a tragedy, but storms happen, at least the loss of life was extremely low, property can be replaced and all the places affected will be rebuilt. Please stop casting judgement on the people who either stayed or just live in the areas affected by Ike. We aren't begging for anything, we just want to rebuild and get on with our lives. Worse things have happened.
I agree that people are capable of making the decisions for themselves and their families.  However, that decision is not made in a vacuum.  That choice could result in someone's harm or even death.  Perhaps a rescuer or even someone in own's family.  I am originally from California where earthquakes are the big disaster.  We are taught from a VERY young age to always be prepared to an earthquake.  Both with construction and design of a house and the contents in it.  We were also taught what we needed to survive in case an earthquake rendered us unable to leave.  Since an earthquake occurs without warning you MUST always be prepared.  So why then don't those of us in hurricane areas stay prepared at all times?
I also agree with those who say that the decision to live in these flood prone or hurricane prone areas need to accept responsibility for such and not rely on the government to bail them out.
In response to ed,if we would listen to you,we would not exist.Neither would you
Great ideas from some very thoughful people. I think much of the pain of these hurricane area survivors / residents could be eliminated, and the burden of the taxpayers who choose not to live in these danger zones could be lessened, with prudent thinking. Why anyone would NOT start a special savings account for a "Hurricane Emergency Fund" at just $10 or $20 dollars a month is beyond me. These personal funds could be tapped every time a potential hurricane is coming your way, what... every 10 or 20 years? So you don't eat out 1 time a month, don't buy a cd 1 time, or cut back smoking or drinking, for the $10 or $20 per month. At least you would have some resources for plywood, gas, food, motel, whatever. Every person living in the northern part of the US budgets for winter heating.... it's obvious the people living along the Gulf and Atlantic coasts need to learn to budget for Hurricanes. I would be much more inclined to give relief money and even precious time if I thought it was a true unforseen event, but most of the pain and suffering could, and should, be minimized. The first responders are there for EMERGENCY SITUATIONS.... not for STUPIDITY SITUATIONS... and the departments that are put through additional budget strain (meaning OUR tax dollars) due to these events should be compensated for any rescue that could have been averted through common sense in these instances. Mother Nature will win every time.... when you don't play by the rules.
Although we live in central Canada and will never know the the feeling of dealing with a devastating hurricane, I can say that I would never put my children in harm's way. Even if we left with only the shirt on our back at least we would be alive and would find away to survive.
As for the cost of gas we keep hearing about, when we figured out what our cost per litre would equal compared to your gallon - we pay about $6.69 a gallon on any regular day and rises more when devestation occurs elsewhere.We can't afford to drive down the block never mind leave anywhere in a hurry.
By not listening and evacuating you not only risk your life but the lives of others.  No material possesion is worth a life!! If you have a manderatory evacuation and do not leave.  The person who remains and has to call to be rescued should be made to pay the cost of being rescued.  If unable to pay financially, then they should pay in the way of community service.  I am an EMT.  We help and rescue people because we care.  Please, think and don't put your EMTs, Firefighters, rescue workers, etc's. lives on the line because of inconvenience.   Hey all, You can't take it with you.  
Uhh....are they KIDDING with this??  Just last week there were articles about how the authorities in Houston weighed their odds and decided NOT to evacuate, since evacuating in 2005 killed more people than the hurricane.  Now suddenly it's that people DECIDED to stay?  Right.  Like anyone wants to stay home during a hurricane.  This is the most ridiculous attempt to avoid blame that I've seen since Bush stood on that aircraft carrier and said "Mission accomplished" and then lied about what he meant.
I have lived in many hurricane prone locations,Outer Banks,NC; St.Thomas,USVI; Key West,FL; Wilmington,NC and the only location where it was extreamly difficult to leave due to money was St. Thomas. You have to fly. I know that fuel is expensive but is it really worth putting your life at risk? I mean car pool people--- 2 famlies= $0 1 vehicle=$0 fuel=$$$ your lives I think that would definately fall under priceless. Think people just because we live pay check to pay check doesn't mean we don't have resources at hand to help.
Human beings are infamous for our lack of a proactive mind-set.  We are equally infamous for our deluded notion that we can somehow override any natural force.  Prayers--most especially a prayer for common sense-- is extended to us all.  
I have NO sympathy for anybody down there and I feel like FEMA shouldn't give anyone a DIME of my tax dollars.  NO ONE MADE them choose to live in an area that will get hit by hurricaine's (not if, WHEN), and if they are not smart enough to have flood insurance then thats their fault.  I live in an earthquake zone, and you can bet your life i have earthquake insurance.
Well all I know is that three years ago we kept hearing from Republicans about those dumb people in NO and LA who didn't evacuate....wanna take a bet how many of the dummies who stayed this time were in fact people who criticized their neighbors before?
I agree with most of all the comments in regards to the people who ignored the "mandatory evacuation" order.  These people that survived and were rescued, will more than likely to be the first ones to complain or cry about not getting help fast enough.  Well, again, you should have left for shelter and would have been much better off with food, water, medical care and showers!  But no...you guys think you know better than everyone else...well now you know you're not...just plain stupid!  Buses were there for you to get out and you didn't.  Don't ever think that any of us can beat Mother Nature!!!
Bonnie Foster

No it is not the same thing to protect your child in your home, in the attic in the middle of a storm, as to leave your child unprotected in a mall, with nobody watching them.  What you and so many others don't get, is that, firstly, if I stay or go, I may have had to weigh personal things that you have no idea of, and secondly, quit harping about the first responders beingput in harms way because somebody stayed.  They put themselves in harms way because there will always be people who could not or would not leave.

If they ever make it criminal to stay in a declared disaster zone, maybe they can arrest the survivors.  Until then, it's just your opinion which counts for very little when it comes to the personal and property rights of individuals in this country, this is still America.
Lovely, interesting, and some of you really need to take heed.  You're condeming places that lots of you go during the summer or even winter to bide your time for whatever reason.  How about condeming the mid-west, the areas where there is too much snow, and how about California, mud slides, wild fires, earthquakes, let's just shut America totally down and move somewhere else.  Geeeeezem petes!!!  Stay the hell away from the Gulf Coast if you don't want to help or see that it survives.  
The time to ask for help is before the disaster.  "Help me, I don't have money to get out.  I don't have anywhere to go."  Don't ask for help when you're sitting on your roof, baby and pets in tow.  

There are so many government programs out there to replace all your material possessions, but there isn't one yet to replace your life.  

I would hope there are some city/state codes in place for homes that are built on the water like that, but perhaps they should be more stringent.  I know only the richest would be able to afford it, but I think it's better than clinging to your washed out stair case or returning to find everything you've ever worked for swallowed by the sea.

"And every one that heareth these words of Mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand"

Matthew 7:26
i for one am in favor of Darwinism theory of hurricane evacuation. If you decide to stay and ride it out. I don't think my tax dollars should be spent to rescue your dumb arse when you are sitting on your rooftop. Or if you are like all the evangenlics - ask god to save you.
The weather reporters do not help the situation when they report in the middle of a raging storm.  If reporters can stand out in the howling winds and soaking rains unprotectected then why can't residents stay in their own homes, which offer much more protection?  Public perception is a big factor when safety officials are trying to keep people safe.

Where is OSHA and the General Duty Clause to assure safe and healthful working conditions for working men and women in the broadcast industry?  I would perceive workers standing in 110+ mph winds to be an identifiable hazard.  
It is sad to say that alot of people have to actually go through something that bad first to learn, unfortunately some die that first time.  I have experienced several hurricanes here in South Florida but I will never forget Wilma. My home was destroyed & my spouse & I lived in a FEMA trailer, & dealing with insurance company was a daily battle. One day you can be fine & the next day a Hurricane happens & your life is completely turned upside down.  The amount of stress you go through dealing with the Insurance, contractors & daily life itself like working, being a parent or spouse etc., is tremendous. This put alot of tension in my marriage which ended in divorce. After almost three years of Hurricane Wilma the house is finally at its finishing point, but that was a very traumatic experience I will never forget.
Materialistic things can be replaced & they are not worth more than life itself. I am thankful to be alive.
Well, sure, I would not want to be living even for just a few days in a shelter. But I would do it if I had not the means to go someplace else. I would rather be alive than dead or close to it. And I don't think I have the right to disobey an evacuation order and then expect people to come and save me and take care of me.
After the 1900 Hurricane, Galveston should have become a marine life sanctuary. Why do people insist on living there?.That is why I would not live anywhere near the gulf coast, or California (wild fires and earthquakes), or the midwest (tornadoes and droughts) for that matter. I much rather be safe than sorry.  
Federal, State & Local governments MUST enact legislation that prohibits ANYONE from building in an area 'legally identified' as "Hurricane Prone". Time and again people insist on building (rebuilding) in shore areas that are prime candidates for catastrophic damage during hurrican season.

In addition, why must '1st responders' risk their life trying to rescue people who ignore repeated warnings to evacuate? This is totally inconsiderate and should not be allowed. If anyone opts not to evacuate - their fate is in THEIR hands not someone else.
Larry from LA LA land...
You're an idiot with your pathetic attempt to relate the Bushes to America's hurricanes.  Trust me, as a Katrina survivor, they don't play favorites with who's in office.
People in these vulnerable areas need to heed official evacuation warnings and have "a plan" well in advance of an approaching storm.  Homes and your property are replaceable, folks!  Get out or don't expect to be resuced after it's too late.
Carol Anne

Noticed you are from Seattle. Why would anyone insist on living in an earthquake, tsunami and volcano eruption prone city? Get the point? Proabably not. If you think it's wise to start abondoning US cities, yours would be at the top of the list.
As long as we continue to rescue folks who stay behind when they are told it is mandatory to leave they will continue to stay.  The first thing that should be done is take care of those who obeyed and listened and evauated.  After they are in shelters with proper food and supplies should be even begin to check on the folks who decided to fend for themselfs and stay.  When the evacuation orders are given they should be told not to expect help for days and even weeks.  It is time we take care of those who obey the evacuation orders and give them the shelter and food they need.  I am sick and tired or spending resources and risking the lives of rescue workers on people who refuse to leave.  
In one interview on MSNBC a city official was begging from FEMA help, etc.

WHEN are the local authorities going to take responsibity for their own people.  Yes, the government should be available and at the ready to help, but the local authorities should have plans in place for such emergencies!  

There should be a 25 mile Federal Environmental Zone along our coastlines where no one should be able to permanently have a stationary home or other building.  The cities, towns and villages would slowly be moved back away from the water through attrition from the closest to the water on back. When the buildings are in disrepair, they are torn down and rebuilt farther away from the water.
What a wonderful vacation spot that would be to have camping and other facilities without the large burdensome buildings.  When a hurricane comes, you just tell everyone to go home and after the water subside you can go back to camping and playing on the beaches.  Beaches then would be owned by the people, through the government instead of large motel chains.
I have NO sympathy for anyone who chose to stay behind on a barrier island when it was a mandatory evacuation. It is a selfish and extremely dangerous thing to do and puts those who are now attempting to rescue these foolish people in extreme danger.  We are such a greedy bunch sometimes - allowing developers to build homes that will for sure flood and be swept out to sea with strong hurricanes in the Gulf.  I don't feel sorry for anyone who lives in these places.  I wonder what the Houston government was thinking when they didn't issue a mandatory evacuation-look at things now.  Some people never learn apparently.  God be with all of those rescuers and if I hear ONE MORE idiot who says "I'll never try to ride it out again" I think I will scream!
In response to "K Mary Hessgot" these people were offered assistance and financial means to leave that were never before made available.  These accommodations were made to prevent another Katrina story.  They also provided assistance with moving pets.  They were offered bus passes, gas, and accommodations.  Let's go back to why they stayed again?  One woman interviewed claimed she thought it was going to be an exaggeration like Gustov was.  Only a quarter of the residents stayed.  That tells me only a few ignorant people had an excuse to come up with on short notice.  My heart bleeds for all of those suffering, at the same time I cast blame.  What answer can the mother of the 10 year boy that was killed by a falling tree limb have?  Why did she stay?  Why was her child’s life put up for a gamble?  She (excuse me “HE”) lost.  What reason is good enough now?
I live in coastal FL and I run a small ALF with 10 mentally retarded adults. I have 2 6x10 trailers that are loaded with everything I need for myself, my family, my staff and my residents for 2 weeks - food, clothes, tents and sleeping accommodations, etc. Every year, in June, I restock the food and water, and in December we use it if we haven't had a storm. My facility has hurricane protection but we are in a flood zone, so we shelter in place for a 1 or a 2 and we evac for a 3, 4 or 5. I can leave here with my residents in an hour or so if we have to.

People need to take a page out of the Boy Scout handbook. Be Prepared!!!! Don't expect the cavalry to come riding to the rescue.

We once were a nation of self-reliant people who did not let obstacles hinder us - how sad it is that so many have lost the ability to think and act on their own in a matter of self preservation, and even in the face of an oncoming disaster like a hurricane, they stand there, like deer in the headlights.

Emergency manager don't order mass evacuations on a whim. Evacuations are very costly and can be fraught with problems. These people are professionals who train for this type of event constantly, when they tell you to leave - LEAVE!!

In Cuba they don't have a similar problem with people ignoring evacuation orders, the military comes by and tells you that you're leaving in a couple of hours - be ready. While their buildings suffer far more damage than ours, they have minimal loss of life. While I wouldn't want to see soldiers at gunpoint evacuating people here, the point is that evacuations SAVE LIFES!
Now that the areas hit by Hurricane Ike need to be rebuilt.  They should check out these websites.  You can build a disaster-proof home that will survive earthquakes, hurricanes, wildfires...  Check out these websites.  

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http://www.abcdomes.com/

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It's a great solution for rebuilding.  There are some nice looking dome homes...they're not all ugly.



As a certified paramedic of 16 yrs, it still blows me away when I respond to stupid people stunts ie; non-evacuees of Ike.  I do not pick or chose my patients or their situation all be it their fault or some act outside their ability to act.  This scenario is a "B" movie people standing around stoic until the perverable #&*@ hits the fan and the become the focus of all available responders to pull them to safety.  I am part of a medical response team set up for responses just like this.  It does give me pause when some people think they are superior to mother nature, your not and I along with other selfless rescuers out their thank you for your actions that have occurred and for the ones that have yet to happen.  For those individuals who are waiting for help, learn this lesson of life do not play chicken with a hurricaine because you will lose huge, probabley your life or that of a loved one.  God Bless to all
People stayed in their homes because they thought that the chance of Ike doing real damage was remote.  Also they probably were not aware that natural flood protection has been eroded over the years by development. Finally, they put too much trust in their elected and bureacratic leaders to look out for them.

Will someone tell me how many times in the last 25 years has something like this happened to Galveston, Tx?

Another instance of Stupidity?  It is the sons and daughters of community like Galveston, Tx who are more likely to put themselves in harms way by enlisting in the armed services.  In view of the Iraq war, I guess some could legitimately criticize those of them who are killed or maimed for being so stupid and not deserving of help from anyone.

no one reads this stuff folks!
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH EVERYONE-WHAT IS WRONG WITH FOLKS?!? THEY TELL YOU AND TELL YOU-I REALIZE IT CAN BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR SOME PEOPLE TO LEAVE WHETHER IT BE FINANCIAL, TRANSPORTATION, ETC BUT NOW WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT AGENCIES WORKING TOGETHER THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR ANYONE TO BE LEFT BEHIND. THESE PEOPLE THINK THAT STAYING WILL SOMEHOW PROTECT THEIR BELONGINGS WELL ONCE AGAIN IKE SHOWED US THAT YOU CAN'T. THE AUTHORITES HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS TO DEAL WITH RATHER TO RESCUE SILLY PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY ARE ABOVE IT ALL. SOMEHOW A PART OF ME DOES NOT FEEL SORRY FOR THESE PEOPLE. THE ONES I DO FEEL SORRY FOR ARE THE MILLIONS IN TEXAS WITH NO POWER-THEY CAN'T HELP THEIR SITUATIONS-WELL I'VE VENTED NOW. AND BY THE WAY MY DAD WAS IN THE NAVY AND I'VE LIVED ON EVERY COAST IN THIS COUNTRY INCLUDING KEY WEST. HE ALWAYS LEFT MY MOTHER WITH 4 SMALL KIDS BECAUSE THEY HAD TO TAKE THE SHIPS OUT TO SEA! I'VE SPENT MORE THAN 1 NIGHT IN A CLOSET!
People who call Galveston a sand bar have no idea what the ... they are talking about? go learn the HISTORY. you case is like G.W. Bush's case of weapons of mass distruction in Iraq? by the way where is Bin Laden? you have no ... clue do you. NO! open your eyes and learn the HISTORY.  SHAME ON YOU FOR CALLING GALVESTON A SAND BAR. SHAME ON YOU. and no CASINO's in TEXAS...
Why is there no discussion about improving the infrastructure (flood protection, power lines etc) to keep people safer and minimize the damage and disruption caused by hurricanes etc.  Spending about $10,000,000,000 (what we a spending on the Iraq war) a month could really make a difference.
People need to remember that a Category 3 (Ike was just short of this) hurricane is a gigantic TORNADO.  If you are told to leave, all you need to do is look at what happened to the homes on the Bolivar peninsula.  Don't bet you life because there is nothing you can do to stop a hurricane.
It makes me angry to think that so many people chose to stay and are creating more work for the first responders now.  But calling people "stupid" and criticizing their decisions seems a bit pointless now.  For everyone who couldn't wait to make a comment about how people who live in areas where natural disasters might strike deserve what they get, have you ever been to a beach in Florida or Texas?  Have you ever visited California or Seattle where there are earthquakes?  Ever been to Turks and Caicos on a beach resort?  If it weren't for the people who live and work there, you wouldn't be able to vacation there.  What about people in the midwest who deal with tornados every spring?  Most everyone knows that there is a potential for something to happen in these places, but diasters of this size don't happen very often, fortunately.  Rather than criticizing and name calling at this point, shouldn't we focus our efforts on helping?  I understand the anger at those who ignored evacuation orders.  I, too, think they should be fined/billed for the effort it takes to get them out.  But I also think that a lot of people who did leave when asked got punished by Mother Nature too.  Maybe if we focus on retooling the evacuation plans (which I think went relatively well) and helping to figure out how to do better next time, then it might be a better use of our time and energy.  No one wants to foot the bill for other people, but most of us need a hand in some way or another in our lives.  Right now the people in Galveston/Houston areas need help.

We all know that there were a lot of people who ignored the order to go, and didn't leave on buses that were provided.  Some of those people didn't live to regret their own bad choice, but many did.  Rather than making people feel even worse about it - they're having to live with their consequences now - let's move forward.  It wastes time to sit in our dry homes with electricity and say "shame on you" to people who have no homes anymore.  They already know they made a bad choice.  
Initially I was a bit ticked and appalled that many in Galveston did not evacuate.  However, after looking at the photos of the survivors I was struck by the the fact that many of them appeared to be poor or destitute.  I assume that they could not afford the gas to leave or a hotel to stay at if they could afford the gas.  It's a sad situation indeed.

I agree with the folks above who recommend we fine the people who choose to stay and require rescue.  If the person cannot pay the fine due to financial reasons, they could do community service instead, but it us up to them to have a plan to get to safety.  That's a requirement of choosing to live in a hurricane area.

I also think the local governments should be more involved with ensuring that people do not build in flood prone areas.  New construction permits should not be allowed in the worst of flood zones and re-building should not be allowed if the existing home is destroyed.  It would be much cheaper in the long run if the government would buy up the land (at a fair price), and let the homeowner take their insurance payment and land money and go build or buy somewhere else.  If they can use eminent domain to take people's homes to build a highway, you should think something similar could be done for public safety reasons.  People who live or build in flood areas are not just taking risks themselves, they're risking the lives of the people who may need to rescue them and the tax dollars of people cleaning up the mess when their home is destroyed.

I lived in the Dallas/Fort Worth in the 90's and watched as the same people were flooded out of their homes time after time and kept re-building.


I am a floodplain management specialist.  This was a great article.  One tip I would add is to think before you build or buy.  Do you truly understand the risk you face when living in a specfic area or house?  Is this a risk you want to take on?  I know that living in the upper Mid-West I face the risk of tornadoes and blizzards/cold weather.  Therefore, I made sure my house has a secure basement and a good furnace.

What amazes me is the amount of development along the beach front on Galveston.  And this is despite the fact that the west end of the island appears to be eroding - as all barrier islands do.  What is so great about being at the ocean's edge that people are willing to face 15 foot+ storm surges and the inevitable loss of the beach?

For a interesting time, compare the photo of Crystal Beach (photo 25 in today's Images) to the same area on Google Earth.  It truly emphsizes the level of destruction.  The street view level gives an interesting perspective for both the Peninsula and Galveston.  Also, note the number of "blue" roofs in the Google pictures.  I think the photos were taken just after Hurricane Rita.  The blue comes from the blue FEMA tarps that are handed out to protect wind damaged roofs.    
Yes, L.L from Frisco, TX is very correct. There are busses, shelters, hotels set up for evacuees in other parts of Texas. Of course it isn't a five star hotel. Oh well. At least you are fed, sheltered and if you need medical care, it is provided. Also, if you need gas money, most shelters provide gas cards to get back home. I know all of this is provided...I see it on the local news here. Maybe the national media needs to show this also, to let people know that all this is being provided/offered to all who need help and that help is available to those who need to get back home.(this also includes pets)
I always feel for the people who go through such disasters, and Ike's victims are no exception. But why do people stay when ordered to evacuate? Some just think they know better. However, many cannot afford to go. For those who barely have enough cash to survive day-to-day, let alone "be prepared" in advance of an oncoming hurricane, emergency declarations should automatically include voucher systems for gasoline, lodging and food i.e. basic subsistence, issued IN ADVANCE during the two or three days before the HR arrival. As a Wilma victim myself, I know that many of the emergency assistance provisions were too late for too many. Federal assistance should be available IN ADVANCE.
In the months that followed Wilma, my biggest fight was not with my insurance company, but with the property management companies who took my insurance payout and banked it, spoonfeeding me, demanding contractors to waive liens etc. Also, my mortgage got sold twice so there were two seven-week periods when I could not access the insurance payout at all. The property management companies took the bank interest, I got the headaches. Is this right?
My last beef is that our building standards allow constuction of matchbox-wood houses in hurricane zones. Do legislators know the LESSON of the Three Little Pigs, or did they just think that it was a kid's story?
Ken W. , I did not say that I was taking the side of those that chose to stay.  Yes, if the gov provided a way out of town and a shelter, yes, those in danger should have taken that.  My comments focused on other areas outside of Galveston where transportation and a shelter were not readily available unless you had the money and the means to do it on your own.  In Galvestion where transporation, advance notice, and a shelter were all provided, yes, EVERYONE should have evacutated.  
Let's look at why many people can't evacuate.  Employees at Walmart, Stripes and other stores have to sign an agreement that they will stay in the event of a hurricane.  If not they can be fired and some could have a hard time getting another job.  It's time for some union to step in to protect the employees of these evil giants.
I feel that once a hurricane destroys an area, rebuilding should not be permitted. The insurance companies make everyone else foot the bill for the constant rebuilding of those homes and the majority of them are very expensive. That should go for the high rise hotels and condos that investors insist on building right on every beach. I think people who refuse to evacuate in the face of a manditory order should be fined. You are not only putting your life in danger, but the people who have to save you are put at risk also.
These are the same people who want less government, complain about taxes, etc and then display an incredible lack of personal resposibility when they ignore "government agency" warnings. It's called stupidity, lack of education and selfishness. Keep on voting republican and see where it gets you!
Mary, Queens New York

Hurricane David 1979, I survived that calamity and  feel blessed to be alive. I was only 20 yrs old and to this day when I hear of a hurricane or even the possibility of a hurricane I get scared, If NYC is ever threathened by a hurricane, no one will tell ne to evacuate if I can't take a train, plane or automobile from the area, I'll start walking. You can always get material things, But you have only one life. what annoys me the most are the idiots with small children saying that they are not evacuating. Isn't this child endangerment?
anyone excercising their right to be a fool only to be rescued later should be billed by the state or county.


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