‘Something must have snapped’

Jay Fos, Elgin IL — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:34:40 GMT

I agree something snapped, but I also dont agree with 20 year old full fledge officers. Im not saying they are incompetent, but the age of 20 is just leaving prebubecense. Its a confusing time still sorting out emotions. I remember that time in my life and 'first loves' and 'hard breakups' are very rampant. Im not saying I would shoot up a place, but anyone that age should not have firearms when your hormones are left unchecked.

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Jeannette, San Angelo, TX — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:46:16 GMT

My thoughts and prayers are with both the families of the victims and the families of the killer. As a mother how can you try to understand what makes someone do something so vicious. It must be very hard living in a small town and having people look down on you and your child.

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Alissa, Reno, Nv — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:00:12 GMT

I grew up 20 minutes from Crandon in an even smaller town, Three Lakes, and I am in absolute shock that something like this has happened where everyone grew up feeling safe. Not locking doors, leaving your car running when you ran quickly into the store. A place where kids played in the street and never had to worry about "those big city" problems. After this incident, I don't think the beautiful northwoods where I grew up will ever be the same.

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Stela -okeechobee,fl — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:27:06 GMT

It just goes to show no matter what their color their race or religion or job title everyone has there own little world up there. Some can handle life others can not., It's very sad....My heart goes out to all the family and friend's of the victim's and prepetrator family.

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Misha, Milwaukee, WI — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:34:55 GMT

Wow... this is just senseless killing. I can't believe a 20-yr-old boy (and I say that not in a derrogatory way, but moreso in a realistic social state of maturity) was given the title of deputy sheriff. At that age, males are usually a lot less mature and definitely a lot less responsible than their older colleagues. In any situation, this is an awful tragedy and my prayers are with all of the victims' families and loved ones.

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Amberly, ca — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:36:52 GMT

I think this will be very hard for the parents of the killer, and i hope and pray that everyone in that town does not blame thme or hurt them for what their son has done. Maybe this was a sign that the sheriffs need to do more checking, and testing before they give someone a gun and a badge. I pray and hope this town can rebuild itself from within.

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Lindsay, Schofield Barracks, HI — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:51:28 GMT

A close friend of mine is from Crandon and graduated with the gunman and some of the victims and he is currently serving in the U.S. Army. It is sad to think that a town so small as Crandon has lost so many in such a small period of time. My friend is coming home in November to have a going away party before he leaves with his unit to Iraq and now three of the guests that had already said they would be there will not get to come. As one of their own gets ready to go and fight in Iraq and know that there are such trageties like this at home is almost disheartening.

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Larry Rhinelander WI — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:52:15 GMT

I live near Crandon and work there often .Its a real close knit comunity With good down to earth residents .This is horrible . May all those who hurt so badly somehow find comfort . And pray for he who chose a permanent solution to a temporary problem .

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Sheree, Pottsville, Arkansas — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:05:49 GMT

I am stunned , just as the others are, but I agree wth Jay-at 20 I had a very hard break up and it was hard for me to handle. I didn't take a gun and shoot anyone, but at times, I was angry enough, I probably could have done it. I also think 20 is too young to be a law enforcement officer, but small towns don't have much choice. I pray for the families of the victims and for the family of the young man who did this.

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Laura R, Moline, IL — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:10:33 GMT

My prayers are with all of Crandon, Wisconsin.

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Amy Indianapolis, In — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:11:18 GMT

I feel terrible for the family and friends left to deal with the loss of so many. I feel extremely sorry for the young man's parents. I hope that the community will support them as they deal with guilt and questions. The parents are also victims as they try to find answers and feel guilty to grieve for their loss. May God be with all of you

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Emmanuel Abecia, British Columbia, Canada — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:16:19 GMT

Snapped, is exact word, and may this be a lesson for youth of today's generation, specialy an immature age in really-love angle. My hint is the big embarrassmnet in front of dear friends being kickout in group gatherings. Embarrassment by words is worst than being punched in the face, specialy infront of a woman you love. Immature as he is in handling this kind of emotion, triggers a revenge kind of thinking in a snapped and it's too late then once it's done. Most of this ( swearing) new generation age has no respect to other individuals feeling, may he be young or old. My condolence to the grieving families.

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bepatient tampa fl — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:16:44 GMT

Jealousy mixed with alcohol and maybe some job related depression or medications even. Who knows? Cops are just people like the rest of us and no system is going to predict or prevent something like this 100%. The person in this might not have been the type that shared his problems and as being drunk can make us do crazy things we would never do sober anyways especially if we get mad. All speculation or should I say an early guess. We'll find out in a week or two. My prayers go out for the families of them all. God Bless!

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andrew — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:24:41 GMT

i live in eagle river, wi, 40 miles from crandon, and i must confess that what happended does not surprise me...Everyone around here knows Crandon as the "bad town" - outsiders are never welcome in this all-white/no minority town...people are not friendly, bar fights are common (town people against "outsiders"),etc...I know a lot of people who lived in Crandon and moved away because they could not tolerate the intolerance... The killer was born and raised in this intollerant community...the fact that he reacted the way he did to a simple break-up shows that Crandon is still the black ship of the northwoods...Word of advice to tourists: stay away from Crandon...stay out of trouble.

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Chicago, IL — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:26:47 GMT

I believe the mistake is on the Law Enforcement made a big mistake when they had a 20 year old as a sheriff's deputy. Not even as a poloceman. They should raise the age to 25. What made him do what he did? He was a young man the had hidden anger and it would came out in when he was rejected. His anger would have come out if there was a dispute on a traffic ticket and no doubt he probably would shoot the motorist. There are lots of people in this world that have hidden anger and make you think they are so nice but when they don't get their way it comes out and they become dangerous like this young man.

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Diana Moore, Teague, Tx — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:33:21 GMT

Prayers to all victims involved and their families plus Tyler and his family.

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jeff, spokane,wa — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:44:07 GMT

Was the man taking any steroids?

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damon, martinsburg , wv, — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:50:05 GMT

I agree with the poster above. 20 is too young for someone to have that much responsiblity as a law enforcement officer. There is no way to determine when the perfect age of maturity is ideal for this job , but i can say its not 20 . I think back to when i was 20, i was going into the marines, and I think of how immature I was even in boot camp. I mean, i took everything serious, but when i got out, i still felt the compulsiveness of making fast and rash decisions.

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Elizabeth, California — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:06:12 GMT

I'm so sorry. This is tough...really really difficult. A lot of times there aren't clear answers to the questions we ask. So much of life does not make sense. It saddens me you are experiencing this. Just remember that your loved ones can be fully at peace without these questions answered, so don't ask for them. Because your loved ones are at peace, they would want you to move through grief and pain back to life, rather than staying in this place forever waiting for some sort of explanation. You did your jobs well. You raised great kids. Butterflies take several months to form and only live 2 weeks--length does not equal impact or value. Even though these lives have been shorter than expected, these lives were full lives, fulfilling purpose regardless of age. I understand questioning. 3 months ago I lost a son to cancer. He was so young and had only begun to live. But although his life was short, it was beautiful. I can't say I've stopped questioning, and my grief is not yet less, but the joy and the love I gained through his life will always be more than the grief gained through his loss. Bless you all.

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Robyn, Burbank, CA — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:06:38 GMT

I thought in order to carry a handgun you had to be 21. I thought in order to become a law enforcement officer you ahd to be at least 21 years old.

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PJ — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:09:34 GMT

I agree with Jay, and I am an officer who was hired when he was 22 yoa. If the minimum stabndards are indeed 18, Madison must change that. With policing, comes some maturity/problem-solving issues, which obviously were problematic for the gunman. My thoughts go out to the victims, the gunmans family, and the brothers and sisters of the agencies the gunman worked for.

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Sherri M. — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:19:08 GMT

I agree with the gentleman's earlier response about the age of the deputy. A young man who is only 20 years old is, for the most part, still growing up. I know we allow 18 year olds to vote, to fight and die or be permanently disabled for our country and/or our interests abroad. I believe anyone given any type of power, whether voting, armed forces or law enforcement, the minimum age should be 21. With that issue aside, I want the parents, siblings, family members and friends of all of the victims and potential victims to know that they are in the prayers of most Americans who grieve with them. Until you lose a child of your own (which I have), you cannot begin to understand the pain and despair of those who are left with this terrible unfulfilled loss. My heart and prayers go out to each and over one. Peace.

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Tom MacPherson — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:23:45 GMT

A 20 year old kid in uniform should be in learning law enforcement as a 'trainee' or even as a volunteer officer (or serving in the military with plenty of supervision and lots of rules and regulations) not enforcing laws that there is no way he could fully understand (ever heard of legalese?). Too many young people can get the 'God complex' with the gun and uniform, and no small town could properly supervise and control that kind of attitude. Kick up your standards and controls or expect it to happen again anywhere. Good luck to us all, and I offer my most sincere condolences to the town and all the families effected by this tragedy.

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MARK FLETCHER.CARMICHEAL CALIF — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:39:41 GMT

THAT THIN BULE LINE, LETS SEE, HIGHEST DIVORCE RATE, HIGHEST DRUG AND ALCOHOL RATE, SUISIDE,HEARTATTACKS,NOW THIS AND YOUR SURPRIZED? NOT ME

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AngelPat — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:41:43 GMT

what can you say? How can you say? At this point there are no words to say! it is what it is..... Life and death is in the power of the tongue! I know my words bring no comfort to the 6 families, but maybe less should have been said before the shooting started. My prayers to all six families.

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MARK FLETCHER.CARMICHEAL CALIF — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:44:29 GMT

THAT THIN BULE LINE, LETS SEE, HIGHEST DIVORCE RATE, HIGHEST DRUG AND ALCOHOL RATE, SUISIDE,HEARTATTACKS,NOW THIS AND YOUR SURPRIZED? NOT ME

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AngelPat — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:44:58 GMT

‘Something must have snapped’

Tricia, PA — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:32:18 GMT

When I was in 7th grade, an auxiliary police officer killed three woman who has testified against him at his divorce hearing and shot another one who survived. Then he shot himself and died on route to the hospital. My small town had a population of about 400. It was a horribly frightening thing. This was the early mid-80's, and the school wasn't locked down during the shooting.

It was just bad. Although it's vivid in my memory, the town moved past it.

My heart goes out to all of Crandon, WI

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Logan, Minneapolis, MN — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:43:15 GMT

Twenty years old. It just seems too young to be a cop. I don't know, just don't know about this tragedy at all. Nothing is sacred anymore. Anything can happen in life, at anytime. It's just plain depressing. Can anyone just "snap" - me, you, anyone? Just don't know.

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Amy, Denmark, WI — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:46:09 GMT

I grew up in Land O'Lakes, which is not far from Crandon and I also say that the Northwoods will never be the same after this tragic indident. I also think that Police Officers need to undergo a psychiatric evaluation before being issued fire arms!

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Jana C, Seaside CA — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:02:47 GMT

Regarding the comment made by Jay Fos "...I also dont agree with 20 year old full fledge officers...anyone that age should not have firearms when your hormones are left unchecked."
There are penty of people in every age range that have gone off the deep end, hurting and killing innocents they are meant to protect. Young men and women are not epidemic killers when given weapons as a livelyhood. If, at 18, a man or woman can die for their country-for you-they certainly have the right to any and all jobs you would find an elder suitable to hold. Hormones or not, they aren't a bunch of animals, they are full-fledged adults with every God-given right you have...and should have it without prejudice.
I am deeply sorry for the families that are grieving tonight. I can't imagine the anguish that they are dealing with and my heart goes out especially to the parents of young Mr. Peterson. Through no fault of their own, they will not be allowed to grieve the way they should. They carry the heartache of a parent who's lost a child AND the guilt and regret for having him as their son. It's truly tragic and I wish them healing.

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Joe Lininger coeurd'alene Id, 83816 — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:35:38 GMT

Remember everyone,gun's dont kill people,people kill people. All the bleding heart liberal's will eat this up except this time it's a filthy cop!!!!!

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Craig Wussow Menasha WI — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:47:30 GMT

My prayers are with the families of this tragedy. The chain of command at the Sheriff's office will have to look at their process of watching their young officers. A twenty year old young man may not be emotionally ready to handle the responsibility of this job without guidance and supervision of his superiors.

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Chris Tarver, Pearl, MS — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:01:36 GMT

I think you are very wrong Jay about the maturity of a 20 yr old. There are thousands of under 20 men and women in harms way right now making those life or death decisions on a daily basis. These men and women have access to firearms and even explosives. They are part of the United States Military--of which I am a proud veteran.

What should have happened was a battery of psychological exams should have been given geared to the weeding out of potential problems before employment. This was not done according to the report. I am speculating that as it was a hometown boy that everyone knew at least on sight and was known as a "good kid" that it was either overlooked or a budgetary problem

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cerrotampico, Laredo, TX — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:05:16 GMT

RESPECT TO OTHERS LIVES.
It is a matter of culture........not of age.
Every male, many female Swiss citizens keep at home or at easy reach, the weapon that if as, Soldier, in case of necessity, was trained to use.
Yes, full-auto, pistols, even granades, full uniforms, war paraphernalia, even winter and summer ammo.
AGE....17 TO 52 YEAR OLD.

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Betty Retzlaff ,Shawano,Wi — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:07:29 GMT

I lived in Crandon for quite a few years,my mom was born there and I have a son who lives there with his family.My prayers go out to the families of the victims,many with names that are familiar to me.Also lets not forget the Peterson family.They did nothing wrong.They to are suffering.You know,we raise our kids to be the best they can and when they leave home,all the decisions they make from that time on is their own.So don't blame the family.They need comfort also.

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Stefanie, Austin, Texas — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:09:19 GMT

I find it interesting that people are saying they disagree with 20 yr olds becoming police officers while we send tons of 18 yr olds off to Iraq and Afghanistan. Am I missing something? Where's the outrage of allowing 18-20 yr olds fight in wars?

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Stephanie, Evansville, IN — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:12:01 GMT

They should have done a mental exam before they give him a gun. If he can't deal with a breakup, jealousy, or even taunts then he surely didn't need to be a cop. I just read that he was called a "pig" by some of the guest. SO FREAKING WHAT! That is no reason to go on a shooting spree. I feel bad for the families of the victims. They were murdered by someone that should have been trusted member of the community. I still can't believe he was hired at 19. Yes, he may have been a nice guy but definately not stable.

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Martinsburg,wv 25405 — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:24:40 GMT

My prayers go out to both of the families. But yu can't blame this on just one person. He was wrong in what he done but with the way young people are of today they don't care what they say or do to other people and their feelings. And if the called him a worthless pig what gave them the right to do that iam sure they wasn't brought up that way either but it happened and nobody can chage it now.

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Toby, Fairfax, Va. — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:33:31 GMT

As a former Wisconsin resident my heart goes out to all of the victims. As to the shooter, it's not the age but the mindset and training of who qualifies as a deputy. My 20-year-old nephew is serving in the Army in Baghdad. He is mature and level-headed for his age and just was promoted to sergeant.

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Gina, Wisconsin Rapids, WI — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:33:57 GMT

This is a tragic event and heart felt sympathy goes out to the families of all. Putting this into perspective; the killing that occurred was not because he was a twenty year old police officer. He was a person that was apparently pushed over the edge by affairs of the heart. If he had been a delivery person would we be dwelling on that occupation and analyizing his qualifications. Or perhaps if he was a medical intern. It was not the job that made him shoot. I am not defending him but I am defending everyother young officer that is dedicating their lives for the well being of others.

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Cassie, Muskegon, MI — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:42:01 GMT

Our hearts go out to the families and friends of all of the victims, including the family and friends of the young man that commited this crime. We live in such a violent world any more where this happens any where any time. But remember this, it is our place to try to understand and not judge...that is left to God. The shooters family has lost someone they loved dearly also, leaving them victims along with those whom he killed. May God heal all and comfort everyone through such a trying time.

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kenny reno nv — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:45:12 GMT

QUESTION???????? FOR KEVIN TIBBLES!!!!

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE OVER 300,000 TRAINED SOLDIERS (MERCENARIES) COME HOME MENTALLY UNSTABLE, AND SOMEONE DISRESPECTS THEM, AND MANY OF THEM ARE 18, 19 20, YEARS OLD MR JAY FOS.... I THINK THAT HIS IS JUST A UPCOMING PROBLEM THAT THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH LATER BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT NOW.. EVERYONE IS CONCERNED ABOUT LINEING THEIR POCKETS. THIS PROBLEM IS ON THE RISE. WE ALL SHOULD START THINKING ABOUT IT A BIT.. HOW MANY SOLDIERS DO YOU THINK ARE GOING TO SNAP??? WHEN THEY COME HOME.... IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THE CRAP THAT THIS DEVIDED COUNTRY IS GOING THROUGH NOW, AND WHAT THE SOLDIERS GET TO COME HOME TO I'M SCARED! ohhh sorry for yelling.....

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Dave,Oak Creek,WI — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:57:27 GMT

20 year old kids do not belong on a police force.
May God give comfort to the family's of both the victims and the killer.

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Noah, Traverse City, MI — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:01:11 GMT

I agree as well...something must have snapped. I am not sure if a proper psychology screening would have detected a tendency for violence or not? Needless to say, it is a tragedy. Being a father myself, I am not sure what it is like to be going through the feelings of losing someone you love, especially a child. I don't know if I could ever forgive someone for hurting my child. My heart goes out to this town and to all the families that have been hurt.

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Imelda, Valparaiso, In — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:24:33 GMT

I feel sad for both the families of the victims and killer, but more so for the killer's. His family not only have to suffer the lost of the son but to bear the blame from others. I do hope and pray for all the neighbors will be supporting for each other, and for the killer's family too, they're not accountable for their son's wrong.

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Walter Oglesby — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:37:16 GMT

Terrible incident. Hope that the theme of too young to be officers carries over to those who think that the drinking age should be lowered.

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M Carboni, Phoenix, AZ — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:38:52 GMT

Awww, the poor poor baby officer was taunted. So the sniveling brat ran out and got his police issued AR-15 and killed all over words. Because of my own ethnic background (Italian) I've heard so many 'taunts' that now those words are just background noises. Some of my good friends who are African-American have gotten far worse taunts from regular folks as well as the police.

I agree that this 20 year old, did not have enough self control and it would have been spotted by the same exams armed FBI, CIA, DEA, DHS, etc... types are given before becoming full field operatives.

I've been to Crandon, for what used to be the 4x4 offroad racing events. Beautiful little town, whose folks we always found friendly. However, small towns like the one I grew up in (Franklin, CT) can still breed rats.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the folks who lost loved ones who did not need to die, because they spoke words someone else did not like to hear. Hate speech is one thing, but does anyone remember "sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me", guess the Police need to go back to the 'old school'.

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Julie Thomas, Florence, WI — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:06:21 GMT

My heart goes out to the parents of the victims and the killer. It is so very hard to lose a child, especially under such tragic circumstances. Children are definitely a gift from God and should be able to outlive their parents. Unfortunately, that isn't always the case. As to the parents of the killer, I hope you find out what went wrong to make him commit such a terrible act. As to the parents of the victims, hold tight to the memories. I for one will never forget this tragedy. May they rest in peace.

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James Duszynski, Two Rivers, Wi — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:15:51 GMT

My heart go's out to everyone in Crandon and my thoughts and prayers will be with you all.
I have to make the comment that our young people that are in law enforcement are more capeable than some people are giving them credit for. Back in the late 60's at the tender age of 19 I was sent to Vietnam and I and my fellow soldiers had to make life and death decisions more times than I want to remember. I feel the young people of today are better equipped mentaly and phsyicaly than we were back those dark days. Again, my thoughts and prayers will be with all the fine people of Crandon.

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Joe Don, Roseville, CA — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:28:51 GMT

I feel that this tragic event is another sign of an underlying cruelty streak rampant among younger people today, something I have have seen in chat rooms and on the street. Only this time, the mean was done to someone unstable and with the ability to strike back, and he did. What ever happened to civility, diplomacy and compassion?

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Greg Blackburn, Daniels, WV — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:44:18 GMT

Hmm, haven't heard anyone calling for a gun ban over this....interesting.

GREG

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Jerry Mullins, Rockville, MD — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:45:01 GMT

What worries me is that our nation's civilian nuclear power plants, and shipments of nuclear waste, rely on local law enforcement officers for the last line of defense in case of a terrorist attack. The plant/shipment guards are only supposed to delay the terrorists until the local law enforcement arrive to defeat the threat. Yet this case shows that the local law enforcement is not subject to human reliability monitoring such as psychological screening. Most local police are not adequately checked for credit problems and drug/alcohol abuse either, which is a glaring weakness in our nations civilian nuclear physical protection program. Just read the news everyday, at least a few local law enforcement commit serious crimes.....

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Sharon Boardman — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:21:58 GMT

This is a horrible tragedy! When you are in a small place like this it touches your heart around every corner.If you dont know the kids you know a brother mom dad aunt or someone who is very close to this.My heart goes out to the victims families and our community

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Seattle WA — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 06:08:25 GMT

Something snapped alright. America Snapped. Most of our police officers are walking time bombs, power seekers and control freeks. We hire politically not by qualifications. Looking for a Good Country to live. US is way down the list today.

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Robert, Denver — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 08:09:47 GMT

When I was 20, I was a sergeant in the U.S. Army. I don't believe his age has anything to do with it. I think there are a lot of people, 20+, that don't have the skills to deal with a relationship that is no longer. I feel terribly bad for the families of all that lost somebody. I too lost a child to murder. He was 25 when he was killed. It's painful all around.

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Peter, Australia — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 08:14:00 GMT

You get angry. A gun is nearby. It can fire thirty shots quickly. You are sorry afterwards. You wouldn't have done it if there was time to calm down. One of the reasons why it doesn't happen as often in civilized countries where guns are less available; countries where life is valued more. In some countries cops don't even carry guns (The United Kingdom and New Zealand, for example).

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JOHNNY K — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:12:55 GMT

20 year old kids are still kids do not think he
should have been full time sheriff

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Bruce Benoy, Loranger, LA — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:40:00 GMT

I find it a bit puzzling that some folks think a 20 year old should not be on a police force, when we give 18 year olds rifles, gernades, machine guns and then send them half way around the world to police in a city where the culture is total foreign to them. I do not think age is the issue. I think respect for others and a value for human life are the issues here. It is not alright to call others "worthless pigs", and it is not alright to take another persons life. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

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Pamela Hamilton, Columbus, Ohio — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:26:34 GMT

We seem to live in a day and time when it is felt that hurt and disappointment can be settled by absolute violence. "Snapped" may be a reason for this type of violence but it is not an acceptable excuse. It's not only about this young man being age 20, because we send our youth to war at 18...it's about our seemingly inability as adults (and 20 is considered an adult)to deal with emotional situations in such a way that we can move on and recover and follow a new avenue. Emotional immaturity is a valid disease today with our teenagers and young adults; but perhaps we older adults (I'm 53) have somehow help set the stage (???). The violence in Crandon is a story that we seem to see happening all the time all over the U.S. What can we do to heal the mental and emotional storms of our fellow human beings (young and old) so that this unnecessary violence is not continuously repeated? Draw close your loved ones, families, friends and community...pray for peace and understanding.
Pamela, Columbus, Oh

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Concerned Citizin Wisconsin — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:45:40 GMT

I live close to where this happened, know people involved. What bothers me is that the county officials knew he was unstable. He had charges of rape against him, which was thrown out of court because of 'lack of evidence'. Two that I am fully aware of, yet continue to let this youngster 'protect and serve'. Just mind boggling that this was allowed to happen. Wisconsin needs tougher requirements for police officers! 20 miles north theres a pedafile cop (Minocqua wisconsin) and now 20 miles west theres a rampage cop. What next before the state steps up and really starts to get tough?

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Traci Wisconsin — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:56:18 GMT

When I hear that the others (and these others are children mind you...14-18) were calling him a 'worthless pig' that is no excuse for this at all! These children are not to blame for this horrible tragedy. They were victims. This young cop was unstable, he was angry and he had a weapon. For him to 'calmly explain' to his long time friend what he just did, shows me he had this planned. He was a control freak, one that took his control to a different level. I pray that the families of the victims find peace in the future.

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james miitchell bellows falls vermont — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:57:17 GMT

In a culture of violence that we live in and exposed to daily in media we become desenseitized to killing.
Emotions and insults harm everyone deeply and we dont learn from this horror and school shootings to just be kind to everyone and treat with respect. I live in a small Vermont community and years ago a police chief snapped and killed 2 people in Walpole NH he was an adult in his 40s and he then killed himself.

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sandy reed — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:01:40 GMT

I am so sorry,my thoughts and prayers goes out to all
the families that lost a love one.I pray that GOD will come in and comfort you all.GOD is the GOD of mercy and the FATHER of all comfort,and if you let HIM,HE will make you satified,because HE done it for me when my mother died,and what GOD do for one,HE will do for all.what Peterson did was not of him,but
of satan.I am telling you the truth because satan came into my home one night, took over my mind and
had me ready to kill some people just like Peterson
did,but our GOD that set high and look low came right behind satan and stopped me from doing it.you see an idle mind is the devil workshop.our GOD will go before us as a leading lamb and come behind us as a
protected angle.so don't blame Peterson,blame satan.
so I am telling you all not to give up but look unto
the LORD where all our help come from.HE is the one that is able to carry us through any death,trouble,
and anything,so put your healing,trust,and faith in
the LORD and HE will carry you through.

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venda wells, fort myer,fl. — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:18:08 GMT

My prayrs are with the whole community. We must learn not to belittle people with words that will interfer wih their thinking that may cause something like this to happen.

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Donna Pellegrino Bath Maine — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:19:45 GMT

It goes to show that we can never be sure of what can make a person snap age is'nt the reason as much as school and training to see what a person can take and can not take but when it comes to love and hate relastionships even the most trained police officers have killed there lovers there is a thin line between sane and insane in alote of people and its always shocking when its the ones we would never dream would do such a awfull act.Psychological screening helps find those that are ill at the time but for those that are not it most likely will not reveal itself till something awfull happens its the moment,the time, the words, the feelings, sometimes its years, then something as you worthless pig can make that person snap.The bottom line is it does'nt matter if your a officer of the law or bricklayer we need to learn that there are better ways to deal with life and the downfalls,untill we do it wont stop and we also must learn that the way we talk to each other in this country is awfull and we play a big roll in how others feel about themselfs could it be that each one of us in some way have said things that could have been the words to push someone over the thin line i know i have and it makes me think ,the bottom line is we all need to change and maybe just maybe all these awfull things will not happen so much.

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Dominic Browne, Tampa, Florida — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:31:52 GMT

Everyone should remember that each person has a soul no matter what title they may carry. the fact that peterson was a deputy should not be an issue beacuse when it is all said and done he was a human being with emotions just like me and you. he actions should be looked at as a troubled young man desperate for help who allowed his emotions to take the better part of him. please don't say never because until you walk in those shoes you will never know what you will do. this could have been a 30, 50, or even 70 year old man. time to focus on all the families that have taken a loss including the peterson family which my herart goes out to all.

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G. Morgan, FT. Dix., NJ — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:35:27 GMT

It seems to me we are centered on the fact that he was a cop. Watch the news I mean 20 yr.,olds kill people every day. Remember just because someone wears a badge does'nt mean you can't call a all a badge to have them removed. MY PRAYERS TO THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS AND THE FAMILY OF THE SHOOTER.

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Kathy, Dowagiac, MI — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:36:19 GMT

At the age of 18 my son joined the US Marine Corp. now at age 23 he is looking at becoming a police officer. He was a boy when he left for the Marine corp, Now he is a man. I seen the a big change in him when he came home for a visit. My point is, all police officers should have military back grounds, at any age....

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Mordy,G Watauga TX — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:44:18 GMT

It is always the same in this country
You blame the shooter don’t get me wrong it’s not Okay to shoot any one, however no one takes any responsibility for their own actions the bullies in this country the woman in this country think they can keep insulting any one, and keep get away with it until they do it to the wrong person, call names ridicule and humiliate people,
Most shooting happen because of ridicule, people in this country need to take responsibility for what they say and do every action has a reaction, there is no respect for any one or any thing this is why students loose it and you see shooting in schools the bullies need to be stopped first, there is no common sense left in this country,

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LACY C. WALNUT,MS. — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:52:19 GMT

MAY GOD GIVE PEACE AND COMFORT TO ALL FAMILIES INVOLED,INCLUDING TYLER"S.POINTING FINGERS AND SAYING HURTFUL WORDS WILL NOT HELP EITHER FAMILY.IT WAS NOT A AGE FACTOR OR TYLER"S JOB.IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED,SOMEONE MAKING THE WRONG DECISION.GOD BLESS THIS SMALL TOWN AND HELP YOU ALL TO HEAL AND NOT DO ANYMORE DAMAGE BY POINTING FINGERS.

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C. Diem, Baltimore, MD — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:59:04 GMT

My heart goes out to all of the families. I know that it is really heard for Tylor's family. This was not the person they knew. I really hope that the town and its people don't look down on them. I hope that they will all help each other as they go through this painful time. As a mother, I can't even begin to feel what Tylor's family feels and as a sister to those who list a loved one. I have not lost a child (thank God)but, I have lost a sister and a brother. The pain is unbareable. Time heals all things. They will forever be in my pryers.

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Brenda Scott, clayton, nc — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:25:07 GMT

this is so sad and so tragic to see so many young lives taken away so quickly and violently. I think we are all asking the same questions. Why was some one so young given a gun? Why was he a sheriff? I have 4 grandsons all around this young man's age, and not one of them would be responsible enough to handle a gun. They are hot headed and no it alls and I doubt that this young man was any different. The sheriff's dept should take all the blame on this one. I don't think it is a wise choice to give some one that young such a lethal weapon, because along with the comes a great deal of responsiblity. I don't care how good he aced his tests. This was a very, very bad decision.
I understand that he was taunted to the point where he snapped. Young people are so cruel and mean these days. I am not saying what he did was right but when young folks are faced with a angry situtation they need to learn to try and calm the fire and not fuel it. Maybe just maybe if one of those kids had approached him in a calmer way and not taunt him maybe their lives could have been spared. I feel for the families and may God be with them in their sorrow.

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Peg, Central WI — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:34:13 GMT

I really feel the same as many have already said. 20 years old is too young to put someone in this "power" position. They often believe they are above the law. And yes, maybe he was taunted, but who hasn't been. He was not even old enough to 5- how can we expect these people to be mature enough to handle these situations. I believe there should be some mental testing done, although there are some that will slip through the cracks. Face it 20 is just too young. Maybe 25 is a better age. Think back people to being 20 compared to 25. And yes I understand we send these young people into the service, that is sad but they must go through a tough program before they are sent over. And yes many of these young people will come back with many problems, that is what is happening to this country. Look at some of the vets from Vietnam, they virtually never came back even if they wake up every morning here in the U.S.
It is a sad situation with no easy answers but there are many that should not be in a power position and should not have access to firearms.

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Marilyn Schrader, Santa Barbara, California — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:00:49 GMT

I don't believe being a deputy or wearing a uniform had anything to do with the incident. You can join the military at 18, are considered an adult, given a gun, what's the difference? He was mad at the world, not his job. Pity the fool who thinks otherwise. It seems to me we are making excuses for why things happen after the fact. What's wrong with this picture? God bless us all.

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scamer schmooop — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:00:52 GMT

How many of you who think 20 is "too young" to be a policeman here support the War in Iraq? How old do you think the average soldier carring an automatic weapon there is?

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Madi, Mpls, MN — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:10:41 GMT

For those of you who made a comment regarding the age of those in the Military and the age of the shooter, Peterson, thank you. If our Military feels that 18 yoa is old enough to be sent to war to protect our country, then why can't someone 20 yoa protect us on our own land? My thoughts are with the friends and families of those involved.

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James Parker — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:17:08 GMT

"Power corrupts".

Lord Acton

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tom c. — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:29:44 GMT

there are 19 and 20 year olds serving as military police..the age is not the issue,he could have "snapped" at 22 or 23..if there is any lesson at all to be learned,maybe its about our society's verbal confrontationalism..i grew up in the south bronx in the 60s,and knew insults frequently had physical consequences..be careful what you say and to whom you say it ..peace

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Odessa, TX — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:30:53 GMT

Everyone keeps saying that he had no business being a police officer at 20 yrs old. whether he was a police officer or not kids get guns and kill people just like adults. His position has nothing to do with this. I am sorry for both families and hate to see this happen. Kids need to learn that teasing other kids is not acceptable anymore, because of the media glorifying events such as this more and more kids find this to be the best solution when taunted. It is not like when I wa growing up and never will be again. This goes for adults also, think before you speak, don't say something that could ignite someone's fuse, otherwise you may be endangering your life as well as others. People need to learn to keep their mouths shut if they don't have something nice to say. I am in no way condoning what this kid did, but it might have been avoided.
Chris Ely

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Mark, San Francisco, CA — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:35:46 GMT

Of course 20 is too young to be a cop. The necessary emotional maturity has not yet developed. But what does this have to do with the killings? He wasn't acting as a cop and probably had a hunting gun. He was an almost teenager, dissed and lovelorn, with a gun. He became enraged and he used it.

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Tom Kofron, Arnold, MO — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:43:04 GMT

I'm a little suprised at all the comments about the shooter being a 20 year old deputy sheriff. The only thing being a deputy sheriff had to do with this is the taunting, by the victims, of being a "worthless pig", and the fact that he had access to the weapon. I agree that 20 is too young to be a comissioned law enforcement officer, but that did not contribute to this crime. His inability to accept the breakup and his inability to control his emotions when taunted, were the cause of this tragedy.

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Amy, Maiden NC — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:54:35 GMT

All of you that feel like judging keep on doing it but put yourself in the situation would want perfect strangers judging you or your family member? You were not there, you can only go by reports and hearsay so get over it and quit trying to sound like know it alls for there is only one to judge and thats God....and remember judge not lest ye be judged. My prayers go out to ALL the victims in this tragedy. I know how hard dealing with something like this can be since I lost a family member to murder and had to learn how to forgive the murderer who was family...talk about an eye opening and heartbreaking experience

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Linda, Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:05:35 GMT

I have read the extremely sad story of this young police officer and my thoughts and prayers go to the families, friends and the community of this town. But I think that even though some states require psychological testing of potential applicants for the job of being a police officer, I doubt if these tests would have prevented this tragedy from happening or would have detected anything abnormal psychologically speaking in this young police officer before he became a police officer. I don't that this type of testing catches all things psychologically speaking in an individual before hand, I think that psychological problems can develop long after this type of testing is done and may not show up in the individual until it is too late as in this case. As for people at the age of twenty being too young to become a police officer, I think it would depend on the individual involved as to the level of maturity they are at mentally, some people at this age are very mature for their age. You can't go judging people at twenty years old all the same, it isn't right or fair!

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Carol Anne — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:24:32 GMT

I suspect that as days go by, we will learn that he was depressed and had had behavior problems in school. Rampage shootings don't just happen; people don't just snap.

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John — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:05:53 GMT

I wonder how much the socialization of "proper male behavior" had an impact on this man's decision making. "Take it like a man" is the phrase that probably best encapsulates the sort of emotional constipation that is forced on men. Any man that expresses his emotions, unless it's within a tightly bounded sphere like sports or war, is seen as weak, effeminate, or (even more pejoratively) as GAY. Is it really a surprise that he took the emotional outlet that he did?

Someone reading this might be tempted to label me a "bleeding heart liberal." You would be missing the point of my argument. I take no position regarding the gun involved in this case. My point is that men are usually not allowed to resolve their emotions in a positive, constructive way. There is incredible social pressure for men to bottle up their feelings (yes, they have them) rather than facing, dealing with, and resolving them. If anything, I am advocating stronger family and and community ties to prevent future violence of this type. And isn't family values the cornerstone of social conservitism?

Men have to feel that they have ways to resolve their emotions that allows them to be expressive rather than repressive. To be clear, I'm not impugning Peterson's family here. Rather, I'm saying that I suspect he felt tremendous pressure not to express himself during the innitial breakup with his girlfriend, that he grew up socialized (like most males) to be emotionally repressive, and that it all (forgive the metaphor) blew up in his face.

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scared — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:21:03 GMT

Just wait till we have thousands of these "snap-able" guys coming back from Iraq & becoming cops. You aint seen nothing yet America.

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DISGUSTED — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:24:28 GMT

WHERES ALL THE GUN-BANNING CHANTS?????SO HYPOCRITICAL.

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Beth C., Richland Center, Wi — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:55:51 GMT

My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone in Crandon. I'm sorry for your losses. I want to make this comment. 20 years old, is a little to young to be in law enforcement. I think if anyone is wanting to be in law enforcement, they she take classes for atleast 4 years to experience of what can happen when you, as a cop, become in danger, what a firearm can do if shot, and the responsibility of your actions. If Peterson had problems with his ex-girlfriend, he should have went to get help instead of taking his own actions and fixing them himself. Killing someone is not going to solve anything. It will just make that matter worse.

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Casey Plummer, Crandon, WI (I grew up there) — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:49:34 GMT

I was in Crandon this weekend visiting my parents while this happened. My brother lives(d) next to Tyler, and my cousin lost three of his classmates that day. It is all so very sad.

I personally think that anyone is capable of these kinds of violent acts under certain conditions. Those who are more mature or understand the nature of their own consciousness are less likely to be so polarized. He had free will, and he chose to drink, and allow his rage get out of control.

In a spiritual sense (yup going off the "deep end" here), I believe that it's possible he was so stressed and/or drunk that he opened himself up for influence by negative souls (demons). When he got sober, even he probably didn't fully understand why he did it. The thoughts came into his mind, he chose to not ignore them and instead act.

All of us have had a horrible idea pop into our head at some point in our lives, which we then reject in internal horror, and think "Where did that thought come from?".

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M. Boldig, Antigo, WI — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:15:25 GMT

While this situation is tragic it does bring to mind a larger problem with society in its current state, that is it is too easy to solve a problem with violence. This young man could not accept that someone no longer wanted his attention so he somehow rationalized that if he could not have her no one else would either and unfortunately everyone else in the room would suffer the same fate. I know all of the families are grieving and we grieve with them. In the larger overview of things this now gives the state of Wisconsin the incentive to take a look at the rules and regulations regarding the qualifications in becoming a police officer and possibly upgrading them. A physicoligical evaluation of a candidate for police work should become manditory no matter what age the candidate may be. I have met may 20 year olds who are more mature that people twice that age so I do not believe that just because the young man who committed this crime was that age and a police officer that the current process is to blame. Any time a tragedy happens human nature makes us try to blame someone or something so we can justify why it happened. What we have in this situation is one young man who could not accept how a situation was going and made the wrong choice on how to solve it. We can only hope that the rest of us can learn from this and decide to solve our problems in a more rational manner.

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Sheryl, Des Moines, Iowa — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:23:08 GMT

May God be with all in Crandon. Trying to find some place to put the blame will not bring anyone back so the whole town needs to pull together and give each other support in this sad and tragic time. Sometimes things happen that we just cannot find answers for or make any sense of it. I had a very close friend commit suicide over a break up with his girl and he would have been the last one you'd ever expect that from but he did it. The choice of a permanent solution to a temporary problem because you just don't feel you can deal with the pain. I am deeply saddened by this tradgedy and praying for all of you. May God give you healing and comfort.

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tharron swett, detroit mi — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 19:39:24 GMT

I don't get why people think a 20 year old can't have enough sense to be an Officer of the Law. They started out much younger in the old days. Sometimes becoming officers or even Sheriffs if you take the old west in account, sometimes at the tender age of 17! But if you can get drafted at 18 and fight a war where there are all types of psychological ramifications and there are veterans who pick up and carry on after a war everyday since war began, I don't see why 20 years old is too young to be a cop. It seems to me that this guy would've done this terrible thing whether he was a cop or not. Where'd he get the rifle from? Could he have not aquired a rifle or a hand gun from the local gunshop whether he was a cop or not? If you think this guy only did that because he was a cop, then how do you explain all the other "full grown adults" who have gone on these sorts of rampages? What does being a cop have to do with this tragedy?

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JB, MO — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 19:56:21 GMT

I don't understand why everyone thinks this has anything to do with him being a police officer. He was just a 20 y/o that decided he'd rather kill his girlfriend than break up and listen to the taunts.
Who's to say that he didn't have a gun that wasn't issued by the police? I don't know the firearm laws in Wisonsin, but in Missouri you can buy a rifle at the age of 18. I personally don't think that his job/career means anything in this situation.I mean it's not like he killed someone off the street for jay walking or speeding! No I am not condoning him or saying he is justified b/c no person has the right to take anothers life, but I am saying that i think people need to leave the fact that he was a police officer out of it. He would have done the same thing no matter what his occupation!!

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flabbergasted with all these dumb comments — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:09:36 GMT

the correct quote is: "absolute power corrupts absolutely" That has nothing to do with this situation. That guy is a man 1st; Cop 2nd. What does it matter that he was a cop anyway. He is a guy who killed a bunch of kids who were teasing him. Self control is the issue. Not occupation! As easy as it is to obtain guns in small towns such as this one, I don't think it would've mattered if he was the town sheriff (Like one guy tried to say he was) or the garbage man. The report also said he went to HIS car (Not a black & white) and obtained a rifle he obviously bought. If someone goes to an ex girlfriend's party who you just had a falling out with armed, what does that tell you? IT'S COMMON SENSE PEOPLE!

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Nogodeh — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:21:37 GMT

So many people saying that 20 y/o is too young to be in law enforcement and have a gun.
Well then, 20 y/olds should not be sent to fight in wars or on any peace keeping missions anywhere.
If they are too young and immature [with raging hormones], to be police/peace officers and carry a gun, then what does it say for the youngsters that are now fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Shouldn't these youngsters have an opportunity to mature before they are sent into the field of war at say 19 through 25 y/o?
If police/peace officers should have psychological testing before they are accepted on the force, then shouldn't the soldiers have the same psychological testing before they are sent into highly volitile areas in the world for eg. like Iraq etc. or any where else in the world for that matter, raging hormones, immaturity and all?
Come to think of it should the voting age have been lowered to 18 y/o in the first place. Aren't these kids still too immature to be taking on this responsible activity as voting?
Why is 18 year old considered as adult when these children are still in their teens.
If they can't buy alcohol or cigarettes until they are well over 20 odd years of age, why should they be allowed to drive at 16 years of age, vote at 18 and be able to go to war while still in their teens but can't drink alcohol until they are much older?
These youngsters should not be able to get a driver's permit before 18 y/o or vote before 21 and even if allowed to join the Armed services before 21, should not be sent/ allowed on active duty until 21 years or older.
If these youngsters [with their immaturity and raging hormones] are not old or mature enough to join the police dept. and carry a gun, then they should not be allowed to drive a car, vote or join the Armed services, or other function/job, [that may/will not only endanger themselves but/and others] that takes a great deal of insight and maturity.
It is also time to address bullying [physical and verbal], insulting others and other thoughtless acts, that can 'set off' these immature, insecure and often times sad/depressed, angry, confused youngsters.
The outcome of this sort of negative thoughtless, immature behavior can bring great sorrow grief not only to the bully or bullies but to the person or persons that are bullied/ put upon.

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TINA LOPES — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:32:33 GMT

LET'S TAKE THE TIME TO PRAY AND REMEMBER GOD FORGAVE US. WE NEED TO FIND IT IN OUR HEARTS TO FORGIVE NO MATTER WHAT.WE ARE ALL GODS CHILDREN. WE CAN NOT BLAME ANYONE BUT THE DEVIL, BECAUSE THIS TRAGEDY IS NOT OF GOD. GOD BLESS EVRYONE

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Bob, Erie, PA — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:55:09 GMT

Terrible story. My condolences to the families/friends of all parties involved, especially the deputy's. No problem gets solved like that. I guess you never know who's gonna snap, why, or even when. I do know for a fact that it has nothing to do with age. Police officers and deputy sheriffs in most places are required to be 21yrs. old, and must also pass a psychological exam before hiring. The reasons for most areas to have the age rule is because 21yrs. gets you into alcohol establishments safely/legally, and because most areas require that age to purchase and carry concealed weapons legally. The psychological test is a tool for liability and most importantly safety. I do agree that all law enforcement applicants should be tested as a requirement. The U.S. military has had soldiers and Military Police forever, all of whom carry weapons, all of whom are plenty capable of handling themselves in a safe and proper fashion, and most of whom start very young. Myself and all my peers were patrolling as Military Police at the ripe old age of 18yrs. We drove police cars, performed traffic duties, and enforced laws in residential areas as well as military areas. By the way, we jumped from planes as a secondary but important part of our job. Nobody can argue the fact that age brings more wisdom in most cases, but it's clear that age is not the issue here. I believe the issue is that many citizens and/or civilians often forget that law enforcement personnel (and also military people) are human beings. Some forget purposely believe it or not, but most forget by mistake. People generally assume that officers aren't affected by stress, traumatic events, shift work, bad diet, etc.. People often say "I couldn't do your job" to police, assuming that if a man or woman takes the job they're somehow able to ignore or are protected from problems more so than the common person. Not true. I do believe law enforcement personnel can "hide" stress and emotion better than most people, but that's an even bigger problem. You're only "tough" so long, then you suddenly crack if you don't get help, no matter what your age, race, sex, or color. It's apparent this boy didn't get much needed help for whatever reason.

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Stone Phillips Orlando fla — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:21:10 GMT

Yo point is he was deemed old enough to carry a gun and badge and protect our civil liberties

Yet the same government who granted him those powers say he is not mature enough to legally consume beer.

Go figure

People ask me what i say to a dead cops wife

cops kill people every day

thats life

and this is just ANOTHER example

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Logan — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:41:34 GMT

Just wait until all the military personnel come home from Iraq. You want to see people snap - it's coming.....get ready.

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SCOTT KUBINEK RHINELANDER,WISCONSIN — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:32:36 GMT

I'M ALSO A RESIDENT HERE IN THE NORTHWOODS OF WISCONSIN AND, LIVE MUCH TOO CLOSE TO WHERE THESE SENSELESS CRIMES HAPPENED. I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO RAISE MY FAMILY UP HERE OVER THE YEARS AND, I'VE SPENT MOST OF MY ADULT LIFE IN THIS AREA DOING IT.
WHILE THE REGION HAS CHANGED AND, THE POPULATION GROWN SOMEWHAT OVER THE PAST 30 YEARS. I HONESTLY DON'T THINK WE ARE AT A POINT HERE YET THAT, THERE IS A NEED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OR, ANYONE ELSE TO BE CARTING AROUND AUTOMATIC WEAPONS SUCH AS THESE THAT, WERE USED IN THESE MURDERS WITH THEM EVERYWHERE THEY GO, PRIMARILY WHEN THEY ARE OFF DUTY.
IN THE PAST 2 DECADES AND, MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE LONGER THAN THAT, LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS BECOME A BIG BUSINESS HERE IN THE 'WOODS. MOST OF THESE COUNTIES HERE ALL HAVE RECENTLY BUILT BIG NEW JAILS AND, BOTH MAN POWER AND COUNTY BUDGETS HAVE BEEN GREATLY EXPANDED TO COVER THOSE COSTS IN ALL OF THESE SMALL COMMUNITIES.
SINCE THE PAST SUNDAY AFTERNOON, A LOT OF US HERE MAKE THAT, MOST OF US LIVING HERE, ARE ALL ASKING EACH OTHER THE SAME QUESTIONS.
WHY? AND, HOW COULD SOMEONE THIS YOUNG, EVEN BECOME A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER HERE OR, ANYWHERE ELSE? SURELY, THERE HAD TO BE OTHER EQUALLY OR MAYBE EVEN HIGHER QUALIFIED APPLICANTS FOR THE POSITION THAT DEPUTY PETERSON WAS HIRED TO FILL? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ANYONE I'VE SPOKEN WITH BUT, I DIDN'T MAKE THE DECISION TO HIRE HIM AND, I SURE WOULDN'T WANT TO BE THAT PERSON TODAY EITHER!
THERE ARE ALSO, SO MANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT, THE PUBLIC HERE DESERVES TO KNOW, SUCH AS:
WHY? WAS DEPUTY PETERSON AND/OR, FOR THAT MATTER, ANY OTHER OFF DUTY LAW ENFORCEMNT OFFICER IN THIS REGION, ALLOWED TO BE DRIVING AROUND WITH A FULLY LOADED, AUTOMATIC RIFLE SUCH AS THIS ONE,( AN AR-15) COMPLETE WITH A 30 ROUND MAGAZINE WHEN HE WAS OFF DUTY?
I'VE KNOWN MANY POLICE OFFICERS DURING MY LIFETIME AND NEARLY ALL HAVE ALWAYS CARRIED A WEAPON AT ALL TIMES, LIKE A SMALL HANDGUN. I GUESS TIMES HAVE CHANGED. BUT WHY? AND WHY HERE?
SIMPLY STATED, IF THIS YOUNG MAN WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THIS WEAPON WITH HIM AT THE TIME, HE COULDN'T HAVE COMMITED THESE CRIMES. NOW, IT'S UNFORTUNATE BUT HE DID!
IT'S CERTAINLY NOT ROCKET SCIENCE TO KNOW THAT: NOBODY EVER NEEDS A WEAPON SUCH AS THIS, HERE OR ANYWHERE ELSE TO USE FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN KILLING PEOPLE. AFTER ALL, YOU CAN'T USE THEM TO DEER HUNT WITH!

IN REALITY, THERE IS SO LITTLE OF ANYTHING IN FOREST COUNTY, INCLUDING PEOPLE BOTH GOOD OR BAD THAT, THERE JUST ISN'T ANY REASON FOR ANYONE, INCLUDING POLICE OFFICERS, TO HAVE THESE KIND OF WEAPONS IN THEIR POSSESSION WITH THEM, DURING ANY OFF DUTY HOURS.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY UNSAFE AREAS THAT ARE CONTROLLED BY GANGS OR, ANY OTHER KINDS OF OUTLAWS HERE AND, THERE ARE NO TERRORIST CELLS SETTING UP CAMP TO BUILD A DIRTY BOMB HERE IN THE 'WOODS. I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVEN HAD A BANK ROBBERY IN NEARLY THE PAST DECADE ANYWHERE UP HERE THAT I CAN RECALL.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULDN'T EVER POSSESS OR, HAVE THESE KINDS OF WEAPONS ACCESSIBLE. IF NOTHING ELSE, YOU HAVE TO AT LEAST KEEP UP WITH THE CROOKS AND, THE TIMES OF TODAY. WHAT I AM ASKING IS THIS, WHY DO THEY NEED TO HAVE THEM WHEN THEY ARE OFF DUTY? ESPECIALLY IN A SMALL, QUIET, COMMUNITY LIKE CRANDON, WHERE VERY LITTLE BAD EVER HAPPENS?
WHY TOO, IS IT OK AT THIS AGE AND, EVEN YOUNGER (18) TO BE TRAINED TO KILL OTHER HUMAN BEINGS AND/OR, LAY YOUR LIFE ON THE LINE, EITHER HERE OR, IN FAR AWAY PLACES LIKE IRAQ? BUT, AT THE SAME AGE, YOU HAD BETTER NOT GET CAUGHT CONSUMING EVEN ONE BEER! BECAUSE, WE HAVE A ZERO TOLERANCE LAW FOR SO CALLED UNDERAGE DRINKING?
OUR COUNTRY TODAY HAS BECOME MORE OF A POLICE STATE THAN AT ANY OTHER TIME IN OUR HISTORY. IT'S GETTING DOWNRIGHT SCARY TOO!
REMEMBER;
ALWAYS QUESTION AUTHORITY!

‘Something must have snapped’

SCOTT KUBINEK RHINELANDER,WISCONSIN — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:58:51 GMT

WHAT'S REALLY EIRIE IS... THAT, FROM THE STREET SIGNS WE'VE SEEN IN THE VIDEOTAPES & PHOTOS OF THIS "INCIDENT", IT HAPPENED ON A WASHINGTON STREET. LAST WEEKS MURDERS IN A LAW OFFICE IN ALEXANDRIA,LA. ALSO HAPPENED ON A WASHINGTON STREET....

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Jack Willett, Gastonia NC — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:40:18 GMT

It is a tragic event that has become all to familiar. It stills creates disblief and heartache each time we hear these stories.
As for 17, 18 and 20 year olds, they can "protect us and die for us in a distant land but not protect us at home? We should be glad to hear of a 20 year old becoming a police officer considering all the other "options". As many others have said proper testing and screening should be done for ALL persons tasked with protecting the public and being issued firearms.

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Joan, WI — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:38:40 GMT

Having worked at a Sheriffs department and being a psychiatric nurse, it doesn't matter the age when someone "looses it." There can be different circumstances and the end results can be the same. What I don't understand is how this young man could have had the required education and evaluations that all law enforcement agencies require. Being a mother with a very disturbed adult child at 35 who appeared "normal" with admirable standards, she totally went off the "deep end" with influence from another person; love! Only the victim (ex-girlfriend) and the perpetrator know what happened and they are not around to explain. I feel deeply for all involved included the family of the young man who was disturbed enough to full fill this terrible act.

‘Something must have snapped’

antonia meadors, centerville, tennessee — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:18:57 GMT

While reading all the posts, I am astounded that none of the conjectures included that fact that this incident was all about Domestic Violence and Power and Control. The murderer didn't "snap", it wasn't because he was "immature" or psychologically challenged. No doubt his history will show other methods he used in his relationships to maintain power and control, at the expense of his girlfriend's well-being. He was raised in a society that gave him the idea that it was OK to use Power and Control in his relationships, that he was priveleged, as a young white male and the killings were the Ultimate Control. Far too many men with the same belief systems seek positions as police officers , with not only access to weapons, but far too much Power. Deputies and officers are not screened for this attitude (it is NOT a psychological defect), but more often accepted and protected by the department. And, as these posts reveal, excused by society as something other than what it truly is.

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Marsha, Bowling Green, KY — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:51:07 GMT

Like others, I do not see a 20 yr. old being a full fledged police officer. But at the same time, I had to stop and realize that many of our "soldiers" are 19, 20, and 21. I'm just not sure I understand the thinking behind that these young "men" have matured enough to know what the world is truly all about. I truly would not want a 20 yr old handling police work for me. Maturity is not there yet. The world has not made a mark on them at this point.

‘Something must have snapped’

Chris, Mequon, WI — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:23:40 GMT

My prayers are with all involved with this terrible incident. No one will ever know what went through the mind of this young officer that made him make a decision that caused so much pain to this little town. We can only hope that Crandon PD and Forrest County Sheriff's department will change their entrance exam to include a psychological test. I know the departments involved also need our prayers during this difficult investigation. God Bless all who are involved in this disaster.