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nancy zhuhai china — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:27:23 GMT

it is a wonderful article in my mind .

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Len Taylor — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:53:29 GMT

It is nice to enjoy the holiday with others. We will have a Turkish muslim, a foreigner(California), a 90 year old widowed daughter of a Baptist minister, a Methodist and two Presbyterians. You are correct that it is a holiday to be celebrated by all.

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B Hudson, Palmyra, MO — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:54:37 GMT

Amen, could not have said it better.

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Delores Opfer, Daytona Beach, Fl — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:00:32 GMT

I agree with yoiu 100%. Thank you for giving us food for thought.

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Diane Elliott, St. Paul MN — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:15:08 GMT

You really should be more careful when including Native Americans when speaking about a 'Truely American Holiday' - and just who were you referring to when you were discussing Immigrants and Non- Immigrants? Here is something that addresses the Native perspective:

Written by Barry White Crow Higgins
Sunday, 18 November 2007

I have been asked here today to speak of Thanksgiving from the Native perspective.
I am grateful for this opportunity. It is a however a difficult story to be told as it shakes the history most of us have grown to know. It had little to do with turkey, potatoes, or pie. Mid winter of 1620 the Americas saw the landing of the Pilgrims in the area known today as Plymouth MA. They were however not the first to land on these shores. In 1614 a British expedition had already landed there. When they left they took 24 Indians as slaves and left smallpox, syphilis and gonorrhea behind. That plague swept the so-called "tribes of New England", and destroyed some of the villages totally.

The new 1620 settlers were not farmers so their crop failed miserably. Were it not for the guidance of a Pawtuxet named Squanto they would have surely perished. Squanto also negotiated a peace treaty w ith the Wampanoag people. The next year William Bradford declared a three-day feast after the first harvest. It would later become a part of the myth known as Thanksgiving. The Pilgrims did not call it that nor were the Indians who attended the feast even invited. The invitation was only to Squanto and Chief Massasoit. They then invited over 90 brothers and sisters to the affair much to the distaste of the Europeans. There were no prayers and the "Indians" were never invited back again. So contrary to popular myth the Puritans were not friends to the Natives. For they believed they were the chosen people of the infinite God, granting them heavenly dispensation for any actions against a people predestined for damnation. Bradford later wrote "It pleased God to visit these Indians with a great sickness though in this regard God was not perfect for 50 of every thousand Indians has survived."

By 1641 things had really begun to deteriorate and the forth coming of the Natives peopl e forgotten. A 1641 massacre of the Pequot's in CT was very successful, so much so, the churches declared a day of "Thanksgiving" to celebrate victory over the now heathen first peoples. This was the first real use of the term of thanksgiving to mark a day of celebration. The celebration included the decapitation of the heads of eighty Natives, which were tossed into the streets for the New Settlers to kick about as a sign of power and defiance.
Also at this time the Governor Kieft of Manhattan offered the first use of scalping as a form of bounty of 20 shillings per scalp and 40 for each prisoners they could use to sell into slavery. Permission was given to rape or enslave any Native women and enslave any child under 14. Law gave permission to "kill savages on sight at will". By 1675 the Native people under Metacomet fought back with vengeance. But even Metacomet would meet his fate at the hands of the Europeans when he was hunted down and killed, body dismembered, hands sent t o Boston, head to Plymouth to be placed on a pole on a Thanksgiving Day in 1767. Archive
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Early American history goes on to honor those who would contribute to the genocide of the First Peoples of the Americas. George Washington ordered the attacks on the six nations of the Iroquois despite the gift of 700 bushels of corn he and his men at Valley Forge received from the Oneida peoples. Survival of the troops was at the fate of the saviors themselves. Lord Jeffery Amherst the conceiver and first American user of biological warfare with his inspired use of smallpox infected blankets. Andrew Jackson late repeated this action with the Seminoles. Locally (here in New England) we know the massacre at what we now call Wissatinnewaq by Captain Turner against elders, women, and children. This history would repeat itself with the truth poorly documented and rarely spoken. As recent as 1967, the State of Vermont performed involuntary sterilization of Native females withou t their permission.

5 to 6 Million Jews and Gypsies were decimated by the Nazi regime in World War II. These facts are well remembered and the world mourns these events. Not to minimize these events or the souls of those victimized, these numbers pale in comparison to the events of the Americas. It has been estimated that over 100 million Native Americans were killed by the European invaders during the establishment of the nation we know today.
Thanksgiving was, without the declared name, a tradition of the Native Peoples a time to give thanks to the Creator for the bounty of the harvest and their lives. As the last crops were harvested time was taken to reflect and give thanks. Although short lived, for three days peace and fellowship was shared in New England back in 1621, a gratefulness was shown for the compassion of one peoples to another and the gifts of Grandfather and Mother Earth acknowledged and shared unconditionally.
I do not speak these truths to solicit s ympathy or the righting of ancestral wrongs. Histories cannot be changed but truth is tool that will give us an opportunity to learn from the mistakes of the past and use this knowledge to prevent them from happening again. We know genocide is happening in many areas of the world today. We can pray for these victim souls and by living a better example we can effect change. I would suggest that Thanksgiving, go beyond the gratefulness of the harvest and should be dedicated as well to all our ancestors and give thanks for the things they have taught us with their lives of triumph and failure.
By awakening I pray we may learn to make a better tomorrow.

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Rayanne, Windsor Ontario — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:24:27 GMT

Actually, in the US, Thanksgiving does have its roots in Christianity. Perhaps not widely viewed as a Christian based holiday nowadays though and probably the closest thing (besides Independence Day) the US has to an American Holiday. By the way, Canada celebrates Thanksgiving as well, on the first Monday in October.

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Amy Louden — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:29:21 GMT

I think this is a wonderful example of what America is. It is a people who come from every country and background giving thanks for the blessings they have received this year. It is about being an American and feeling grateful for this county and our bounty.

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Marc Platten, Austin, Tx. — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:32:42 GMT

What a great article to describe the holiday. I am a liberal conservative, sometime christian in behavior and a war veteran. If I did not have such a large wonderful family (which I am very thankful for), I would love to come to dinner at your home.

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chantilly lovelace — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:36:13 GMT

Gratitude is one of the most important dispositions anyone can cultivate. The world owes us human beings NOTHING. The attitude of entitlement has done a great deal of harm to our social and economic climate. Even in the face of horrid tragedies and travesties, finding one thing to be grateful for, even the smallest thing, is an important step toward healing. Otherwise, one cultivates resentment which eats at the spirit like the flesh-eating strep bacterium, leaving nothing but dis-ease.

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d jones, houston, texas — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:38:05 GMT

some of us also remember and respect the our pilgrim and indian forefathers; we understand what they went through and are thankful for it.

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Johnny LaRue — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:01:14 GMT

Thanksgiving is celebrated by many cultures around the world. Not just the USA

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Joe American — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:10:11 GMT

Unfortunately, Thanksgiving has its roots in the the destruction of the Native American (Indians') nation and culture. It may be a *Halmark* holiday now, but it didn't exactly start out that way...

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Woody- Newark De — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:13:50 GMT

I totally agree with the author, this is the time to reflect on what you have that really counts and share with those that really need.

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aaron, Minnesota — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:33:26 GMT

now thats America for you

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Sarah Springfield, IL — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:34:44 GMT

With all the trials in normal every day life, we tend to forget about all the blessings we really have. There are many things we don't appreciate nearly enough. We could use a little Thanksgiving everyday. I am thankful for so much.

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J. Bill Dallas, Texas — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:36:05 GMT

It is a uniquely American holiday in that we choose to forget the ugliness of its roots.
We killed thousands of native AMERICANS and took their land. Let's party!
Similar to how we say our troops are "protecting freedom" when in truth, our President invaded another country ...in violation of international and American law.

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Jared, New York — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:53:27 GMT

"the churches declared a day of "Thanksgiving" to celebrate victory over the now heathen first peoples. This was the first real use of the term of thanksgiving to mark a day of celebration. The celebration included the decapitation of the heads of eighty Natives, which were tossed into the streets for the New Settlers to kick about as a sign of power and defiance."

Strange. I never learned this in grade 2.

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Logical white guy Mark Casey, Clifton Heights, Pa. — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:06:01 GMT

You specifically mention them, but most Native-Americans do indeed have a problem with this holiday, and many of them actually set up protests. Have you ever been on a resorvation where they live??? I suggest you set up a "pilgrimage" to one on Thanksgiving day next year. I can assure you that it will be an eye-opener.--

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Nancy Kinneavy, McKeesport, Pennsylvania — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:08:56 GMT

As children we were taught about the First Thanksgiving in the simpelist terms because that's as much as children can handle. As adults we learned that the Puritans and Native Americans were not friends. In fact the Puritans took advantage of the Americans. They had the Americans teach them how to survive in this land and then did not extend a hand in friendship. The Americans suffered at the hands of the Puritans and other groups of settlers that followed. We took their land, their women, their lives and their pride. Should we be thankful on Thanksgiving Day for what we have? Yes, we should. But we should not take pride in calling ourselves Americans because we are not true Americans.

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Robert Conway, Renton, WA — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:34:32 GMT

Many years ago I joined the peace Corps. We left the States to train in Zimbabwe for two months in the middle of October. Thanksgiving was the first family holiday we were away from home for. There were about 40 of us in the training group. We took over the training facility's kitchen and made one of the most memorable Thanksgiving dinners ever. A few Zimbabweans were kind enough to join us for dinner. I was sitting next to one of the Zimbabweans (Solomon) as we ate. He asked what else we had to do on Thanksgiving except for the eating and the being thankful. I told him nothing, that was all he needed to worry about. He proclaimed Thanksgiving to be the greatest holiday ever. I told him not to jump to any conclusion until he's hung out with me on St. Patrick's Day.

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Michele, Calgary, Alberta — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:42:18 GMT

The first Thanksgiving that took place was when explorer Martin Frobisher gave thanks for arriving safely (in what is now Newfoundland, Canada) in 1578 while searching for the Northwest Passage. I always think of "our" Thanksgiving as being more closely connected to the harvest than the US one. At any rate, it's my favourite truly Canadian holiday!

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J. Kaaz, Cincinnati, Ohio — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:51:47 GMT

After reading Diane Elliot's post, I am just a little heart sickened. I, like many others, am half Native American and throughout my life have been seperated from my heritage, with little to no contact with the tribe my father was adopted out of. Unfortunately, the only knowledge of my ancestor's lives I have are what I learn from history class and what I have been able to squeeze out of government adoption agencies.

Though I will not cancel my Thanksgiving plans in mourning of something that happened centuries ago, I will remember those that have perished, in this country and others, at the hands of hate-filled humans and I will enjoy the family that I do have fully and undconditionally, as they are everything to me.

Mr. Teague - thank you for your article as it is wonderful and a reminder that maybe, just maybe, we as human beings are on the brink of being able to wholly and happily accept others for who they are, not where they come from or what god they worship.

After an endless history of hate and "star-bellied sneetch" behavior, it is high time that we show gratitude for having one more day to make a positive change in the world.

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Bob, Ooltewah (Chattanooga), TN — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:59:36 GMT

I was saddened to read the lengthy comment regarding the crimes committed against Native Americans--not because they are untrue, but because they are! There have been many wrongs committed by this country against many people groups within our borders: African Americans, Japanese (during WWII), Native Americans and others. And now we risk doing so with Muslims because of the fear of terrorism. When fear motivates it usually leads to destructive results.

Despite these problems, Thanksgiving still is a day that is set aside for us all to be thankful to God--the one from whom all blessings come. And thank God that no one has yet figured out how to commercialize the day! So, regardless of our circumstances, we can all find things for which we are grateful. As one person already mentioned, we are owed nothing; entitlement is a myth. So give thanks! It'll do you and those around you good.

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Ann Ingalls — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:08:24 GMT

Thanks to Barry White Crow Higgins for reminding us to remember the native americans when we are thankful on Thursday and everyday of the year.

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Marcus, Tyler TX — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:18:54 GMT

And if we hadn't killed the Indians, none of you would be here. Be thankful, ingrates.

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Lisa Martin, Washington DC — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:21:46 GMT

Wow people need to lighten up. God forbid you enjoy the holiday for what it is and not try to make history are curse. Once you do that, you might not have your heart attack next week.

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J R moore, Smyrna, GA — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:49:15 GMT

We cannot do anything to reverse or undo what evil events people have contributed to in the past or the evil events they are taking part in now. Let us just be thankful for what each of us has in our own lives that is positive and plentiful.

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Eric Fortin, Peoria, Illinois — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:54:34 GMT

Great article. One things I despair about is how Christmas for many is mostly about gift-giving and receiving simply for its own sake, but Thanksgiving is truly simply about showing appreciation for family, friends, and good food.

Regardless of whether Thanksgivings beginnings were born from all the wrong reasons, it's still awesome to have a spot on the calendar to share in a widespread feeling of gratitude with other people - and obviously it also gives some people a forum to expound more serious reasons to be thankful for their prosperity and freedoms.

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Marc, Montreal, Canada — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:03:33 GMT

Sorry but thanksgiving has its roots in the harvest festivals held by most cultures around the world and as stated by another writer Canada also celebrates Thanksgiving.

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Don, New York, NY — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:14:35 GMT

On behalf of Korean Americans--South Koreans--I am grateful that American soldiers rescued my parents' country from the ruthless dictator from North Korean during the Korean War.

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Jeff, Lancaster, PA — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:41:12 GMT

Just to put things in persepctive.....The Native Americans are no more native then the rest of the immigrants that make up this continent. They came across the land bridge from Russia, what are now the Aleutian Islands. They were here first, that is all. I was born here, so I AM an American. As much as anyone else alive today. I won't ask for forgiveness for something I had no hand in, and I won't hang my head in shame for something I wasn't party to. History is the past, we are to learn from it, not be judged by it.

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Pedro, Tucson, Az — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:03:34 GMT

I think this article is inspirational to the 'new age' Americans and the'new wave' of immigrants coming to this land. But when you include all Americans in a 'family' you must realize that your America is a parasite that has taken over and destroyed native lands and peoples. Thanksgiving, as the title implies is about thanks, but we all know we were not the first Americans.
As a young 'American' student studying people and cultures worldwide, I commonly ask questions in class to get past the 'facts' presented in books. So one day in my Latin American studies class, studying the affects of the Columbian Exchange (surely the author of this story has knowledge of this in history), I asked if they celebrate Columbus day in Spain. The teacher had no idea. I thought since Columbus was travelling under Spanish flag, the country would surely celebrate this holiday since they became rich and dominant in Western Europe during this time. But the people suffering during the transfer of disease and slaves was the native people.
Fastforward to Thanksgiving. If you want to do true 'American' reporting, pick up a travel guide and take a trip to any 'Indian' reservation and see what graces their plates on Thanksgiving. I am sure it won't be their native diet which sustained them for hundreds of years. No, instead it will be a genetically modified diet that has caused widespread heart disease, diabetes and obesity.
I hope you enjoy you truely give thanks to what matters in your life. But more importantly open your eyes to what is really happening and has happened to the native people of this land.

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Rick, San Antonio, TX — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:08:40 GMT

Typically American, I read the first article from Don Teague and I thought what a wonderful article about Thanksgiving. I continue to read on and I get all the stuff that is wrong with America, our violent history, etc. WE KNOW WHAT IS WRONG. LET'S CELEBRATE THE GOODNESS OF WHAT IS RIGHT ON THURSDAY.

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Walter Frayne, Bensalem, PA — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:22:28 GMT

I see a lot of message posters citing the barbaric history of how we treated the Native Americans. While it may be niave of me, I just look at Thanksgiving as what it means to me and my family. For us, it is a time to gather with friends and family and appreciate eachother as well as our good fortune. It's a chance to hear my father tell boring stories, the endings of which he usually forgets. It's a chance for the children to gather around the TV and watch the Macy's Parade. It's a chance for my wife to make some of the best tasting food of the year. It's a chance to bask in the glow of friendship. I am sorry that 300 years ago, someone I didn't know masacred someone else that I didn't know on a continent that my ancestors had yet to even set foot on. But it doesn't make me appeciate the holiday any less. Just as being an atheist doesn't make me love Christmas any less. It's all about what the day means to you. To me, it means a lot.

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Gerald L Johnson - Guthrie, Oklahoma — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:22:43 GMT

Being a some-what history buff myself I have always been ashamed of our American past and have never known how to deal with it. But at the end of ww2 many were trying to place the blame for Dunkirk when Winston Churchill said, "if we spend our time delving
into the past we will loose our future" (not an exact quote). I don't mean to say, ignore our past, but we should not let it control our future.

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John Doe — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:36:07 GMT

As much as I appreciate the sentiment that Thanksgiving is a "True" American holiday, you failed to recognize that Canada celebrates Thanksgiving as well (in Early October). Maybe next time you might want to research your material a bit further before you distinguish a holiday as for "one nation", especially when others celebrate it and appreciate being thankful too.

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1Friend — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:10:57 GMT

We should give thanks every day for a myriad of things we enjoy in the United States. We should not think we need a sanctioned holiday to suggest that once a year is enough or that America is "God's nation". God is not partial; the man who works righteous in every nation is acceptable to him.

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RB, Tampa Florida — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:13:39 GMT

If so many people are bent out of shape about America, then why don't they leave? Here in America, you have the right to leave............
I am an American, I am a Christian and I thank GOD every day that I live in the best country in the world. I will say a prayer for all of the sad people out there who do not realize how good they have it here and how blessed they truly are.

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Joe Blackfeather, Seattle, Wash — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:21:09 GMT

Don is absolutely right. Thanksgiving is the only true American holiday left.

No other holiday allows us to celebrate glorious excesses of consumption while simultaneously institutionalizing revisionist history (No, we didn't commit genocide - The native tribes were our buddies. We shared food every year at this time!)

Yup, nothing gets more American than that.

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Sgt Irizarry Baghdad, Iraq — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:21:35 GMT

That really explains the meaning of THANKSGIVING Day. Is giving thanks for all that you are able to accomplish each day as an US citizen. I am an American Soldier currently serving in IRAQ, and this Thanksgiving Day like any other Ima celebrate it away from the ones I love, but in thoughts and prayers I know that im thankful for having a big support system behind me.

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Trilby Sweet, NY NY — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:41:42 GMT

Thanks for all the "Christian" talk. It reminds me that as a Jew in this country I will always be on the outside, but that is an ok place to be. Tell Rifraf to eat some turkey and enjoy. If Jews can do it, so can muslims.

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Janice New York — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:45:57 GMT

I am from a latin america country , there is so much I have to be thankful for I will be celebrating this day with some old and new friends, We decided to come togather to give God thanks for life, health and to pray for peace through out the world,its' 10 of US from 5 different countries who just want to say thank you Lord

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Sara Jacksonville, Illinois — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:54:11 GMT

It's a day of thanks- to be thankful for all the good things that have happened during the year.

Why is it so difficult to celebrate ONE day in the year, without having to re-hash EVERY SINGLE horrific thing that our ancestors did?

One day...can you pessimists back off for one day!

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Heather, Morocco — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:56:43 GMT

I may be just a college student studying abroad, but for me, Thanksgiving has always been about being thankful for what I have: my friends and family. Yes, in the past people have made mistakes, and we continue to make mistakes today, but why must we be so pessimistic about it? Let's look at the good in the world for once, there are 364 other days to think about the bad as another poster pointed out. This year will be the first year I'm away from my family for Thanksgiving, and my experiences this year have made me even more thankful for them! I just wish I could spend such a special day with them. Instead, I'm going with the next best thing: my family of friends abroad. It doesn't matter who "family" is, as long as you care for eachother. Family is the most important aspect of the holiday, and while history shouldn't be ignored, it shouldn't have the primary position either.

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L Look, Billings, MT — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:46:25 GMT

Did I read the same article as everyone else? I think the point was that it is a Holiday to be thankful for whatever you want. Or not to be thankful if that is what you choose. I feel THAT is what American means. Atleast it used to. I'm thankful that I got to hear my son yesterday when he called from Iraq. Just thankful as a Mom to have one more day.

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Rose, Appleton, WI — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:45:20 GMT

My partner of 9 years is one year out from brain surgery and the removal of a cancerous tumor. This past year has been one of chemo therapy, radiation therapy, fear and hope. Now she is cancer free, for that and the support of family and friends...I am very Thankful.

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Lee, Bellevue, WA — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:51:48 GMT

Diane's arguments while valid are not as impressive as they ought to be (the facts are, the tone is not). I am not sure what history books from which you used but I learned all this and more (not to mentioned studying American Indian culture at one point). If we (and by we here I mean "white" Americans) were the only people to do awful things to people it would mean even more – unfortunately it is not even close (take the current re-hashing of the Cambodian killing fields as a pertinent example). I work with people all over the world and none of them seem to dwell on the evil actions of their ancestors, let alone trying to destroy the sanctity of their holidays.

I do not mean to belittle the horror that we put upon the Indian people (and the dire straits in which many still live) but face the facts – this was not the first nor the last time awful things will happen to groups of people.

I am Thankful for my new baby, my family, the nice house and job I have…and I live in the 21st century where we do have our own issues with which to deal…

Never forget but don’t let it keep you from living...

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Julie — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:52:26 GMT

Thanksgiving has always been my favorite holiday. Specfically for the reason that it is the least involved holiday of the year. Just cooking! Not that a tremendous amount of work does not go into cooking because it does, but that is not so different from any other major US holiday. On Thanksgiving though I can visit with my family, eat delicious dinner, and enjoy the day without anymore being expected of me or anyone else. Despite its roots, Thanksgiving, thankfully has evolved into a day of reflection, gratitude and feasting. Thursday I will be sure to be thankful for that too.

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Clare in MA — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:11:58 GMT

Thanksgiving is what it is. I am certain that the past was not as brutal nor as sweet as some would have it. It is a wonderful holiday that fills the need for all humans to take stock, get a little perspective and appreciate what they have.

The people of the past acted as products of their time. The Indians were not saints and the Pilgrims were not devils. All were trying to survive and get by as best they could. It is easy to judge now, but one wonders how you or I would have behaved in the same situation.

Thanksgiving is the fantastic holiday of the US and Canada. Don't mess up a good thing.

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Erin Chicago IL — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:26:25 GMT

I appreciate this article. I am part Native American. Yes, there was bloodshed, but it was a VERY long time ago and has come to stand for new things. Why do we insist on destroying anything that means something to the majority? Just because they are the majority does not mean they need to continuously apologize for things people did hundreds of years ago. As an Irish/Indian/and other things I LIKE to celeberate Thanksgiving and I think it is RACIST to tell me that b/c my SKIN COLOR is the same as those who did atrocities HUNDREDS of years ago I should be ashamed of my culture!

We know bad things happened, so now lets bond together and be ONE instead of continuously forcing people to be ashamed of things they had nothing to do with.

GOOD GOD people.

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john doe, seattle, washington — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:33:39 GMT

only the idiots put their full name and city of residence along with their comments so the rest of us can look up their phone number on the internet and call to tell them how stupid they are.

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Palmyra Swift, Upstate, NY — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:54:03 GMT

I don't understand why some have to come in and put down something that comes over occasionally uplifting and thinks they have to hand the world a reality check. If it were your job, you'd be working as a government aide. Shut the yak hole and open the long forgotten biological ornaments hanging from the sides of your head. Listen. Thanksgiving has a principle. This article talks about that principle. When people bring up morbid histories about one thing or the other, you totally missed the point. If you don't want to pay attention to the point, then spread your hate elsewhere. Some of us just want to give thanks for what we have. The rest of you are undeserving of your ability to state your opinion the way you do. You aren't even thankful you have that right. You are a disrespectful ingrate. But I still love you, because you just gave me another thing to be thankful for.

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Bob-a-son, Yukon, Oklahoma — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:05:29 GMT

My wife is Kiowa. This morning she as most mornings she thanks God for her life and family. She recognizes the problems with the past but does not dwell on it. You can go all through history and find that all races, tribes, colonies, countries or just people in general, have been mastered, beaten, killed and removed from their properties either by outside forces or from within (yes, even our governement. Anyone ever hear of eminent domain?). The point is, you can sit there and fume until you are miserable and full of hate or you can do what most humans have done for eons, either fight back which makes enemies or assimilate into what has evolved into what is yet the freest nation on earth and make something of yourself.

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Shari Newitt, Anchorage, Alaska — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:28:22 GMT

Wow... I guess I will chime in for the shallow food mongers, I am all behind making up more holidays that put 9 pies on a table. I come from a monster huge family and my Mother would make every kid thier favorite pie, my Dad a cake and even make sure the dogs had something festive to eat. I look at my own family history and when we are all together, I get to hear MY personal history distorted by my brothers who claim I tried to end their lives on many occasion. I recall trying to add a sense of adventure to their boring lives, great exaggerations are thrown about by both sides and I am afraid the truth suffers at the vanity of our selective memories. I am just glad that we can do all the things we want/think/might make us happy and it is that (and the pie ....apple for me) that I try to focus on. Happy November 22nd to all.

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Mike AZ — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:42:03 GMT

This is just so second grade! All the following information is really unproven! Just to put things in persepctive.....The Native Americans are no more native then the rest of the immigrants that make up this continent.(Theory Maybe??) They came across the land bridge from Russia, what are now the Aleutian Islands. They were here first, that is all. I was born here, so I AM an American. As much as anyone else alive today. I won't ask for forgiveness for something I had no hand in, and I won't hang my head in shame for something I wasn't party to. History is the past, we are to learn from it, not be judged by it. You wont do anything. But do all a favor. Learn about Native Americans because you have no clue!

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Dennis McClain-Furmanski, Dalworthington Gardens, Texas — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:47:27 GMT

"...the written text of the Thanksgiving sermon delivered at Plymouth in 1623 by "Mather the Elder." In it, Mather the Elder gave special thanks to God for the devastating plague of smallpox which wiped out the majority of the Wampanoag Indians who had been their benefactors. He praised God for destroying "chiefly young men and children, the very
seeds of increase, thus clearing the forests to make way for a better growth", i.e., the Pilgrims."
http://www.2020tech.com/thanks/temp.html

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Ed Kless, Allen, TX — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:48:51 GMT

"Thanksgiving is a typically American holiday. The lavish meal is a symbol of the fact that abundant consumption is the result and reward of production." - Ayn Rand

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Karen Lisbon OH — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:45:00 GMT

For all of those out there engaged in self flagellation and/or self congratulatory political correctness, I offer the following. In 1620, one half of my family was living in a German cottage, and the other half was growing beets in Russia. During the 1770's one half was deserting from the Hessian mercenaries, and the other half was still growing beets. My husband's family showed up in the 1800's as refugees from the potato famine. For those of you prostrated by the guilt of exploitation, "give all you have to the poor". For those of you troubled by thoughts of exploitation, live for the moment. One of my relatives lies at the bottom of a mine, and another relative's body was dropped off to freeze on the back porch following a mine disaster. Thanksgiving is a time to me when my hard working family took a break. It is a time when my grandfather who labored 6 days a week and counted pennies took his grandkids for a walk and told them stories in order to give his wife and daughter a break. It is a time, when as my husband puts it, you can eat without feeling guilty. For those of you who have nothing for which to be thankful, I am truly sorry, and I will remember you in my prayers.

An American holiday

Jim, Orlando, Fl — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:01:29 GMT

All of you Canadians who are irritated that the author said that Thanksgiving is a truely American holiday need to lighten up! Yes other cultures around the world have a holiday that resembles thanksgiving and yes Canada has it's own Thanksgiving and guess what in October when you have your thanksgiving holiday it is a truely Canadian holiday on that date. When we as Americans celebrate Thanksgiving on the fourth Thursday every November than it is a truely American holiday. No one else is celebrating it at that time.

I think what Don Teague was saying is that this holiday in America (when America celebrates Thanksgiving) is the one holiday that we can all as Americans come together and enjoy each other and be thankful for what we have in our lives. It doesn't matter where you started your life, what your religion is, what color you are, or what your politcal beliefs are. It's just a time for us to be thankful for what we have.

No one is trying to take away from the fact that CANADA has it's own holiday's as well!!!! Get over it!

An American holiday

Butch, Chicago, IL — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:28:59 GMT

Last time I checked, Canada was in North America - so technically their Thanksgiving is also an "American Holiday." As for the hoopla about the native american plight, it is completely inappropriate to use a time set aside for peace and gratitude for your political gain. The roots of this holiday are just that, to celebrate peace and gratitude for the bounty of the year's labor. Go on about how Squanto's friends were not welcome, but imagine if you threw a dinner party and someone decide to bring 90 more people unannounced. Wouldn't you be a bit put out by that? I bet you would.

The Pilgrams never engaged in biological warfare to spread disease among the 'heathen natives', and the writings quoted in these comments are carved to suit the purpose of the poster - not the author. The only documented cases of intentionally spreading disease comes 200 years after what we recognize as the original Thanksgiving, and took place on reservations. These were acts of a greedy few that wanted to profit from the demise of the remaining natives. 100 million killed is an estimate that has been made to include those that died from illnesses contracted from europeans unintentionally.

It is terrible to think of the suffering caused by the contact between europeans and native americans, but you need to get past it and make the most of what we have today, which includes a 4 day weekend to celebrate peace and gratitude for the bounty of the year's labor.

An American holiday

Scott Smith, Morning Sun, Iowa — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:11:11 GMT

As a pastor of the Christian faith, I do regret the turmoil surrounding the creation of this nation and indeed many nations of the world. By modern standards, the deeds are reprehensible and I would agree with the ethic that laments what happened to indigenous peoples. Part of my heritage is Lakota Sioux so I am painfully aware on some level, of what has been lost. And yet, I would caution us against applying our modern worldview to that era and expecting the people of that era to live up to our present ethics. They are a product of that era, that epoch. It is tragic and we owe a debt of gratitude and honest remembrance to all peoples caught up in that tumultuous time. But we cannot expect them to live up to our present understanding of right and wrong. Doing so makes the same inaccurate judgement of those colonial "savages" that they made of the indigenous peoples when they landed: "They don't think like us so they are uncivilized and barbarian." In case you hadn't noticed those tend to be the words we use to negate their humanity. We have grown up much since those days, but still engage in much the same barbarous behavior. I wonder what will be said of us 400 years from now?

An American holiday

Chris Frederiksen, Prescott, Ariz. — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:57:19 GMT

I found Diane Elliott’s post a refreshing balance to the typical – be grateful for all the good stuff we have, let’s eat, and watch football – Thanksgiving message. I found the lack of bitterness also refreshing.

“I do not speak these truths to solicit sympathy or the righting of ancestral wrongs. Histories cannot be changed but truth is tool that will give us an opportunity to learn from the mistakes of the past and use this knowledge to prevent them from happening again.”

A bit optimistic maybe, but when you add this to Don Teague’s message of inclusivness and strength in the face of adversity, it makes something worth reflecting on. Now after all this reflection, isn’t there something better to do than watch football?

An American holiday

Jeff, Omaha, NE — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:02:56 GMT

Is it really necessary for everyone to try to give a history lesson here?

Thank you Mr. Teague for the wonderful article. I hope that most of it's readers realize that you are only trying to share your reasons for giving thanks, and join in celebrating this holiday as it should be.

For the rest of you who feel it's necessary to throw in your two cents and poke holes in the caring sentiment that this article was written for, here's my two cents.

1- We are all aware of the tragedy surrounding the origin of Thanksgiving in America, and it truly was horrible, but please try to see this article for what it is meant to convey, a sentiment of joy and thankfulness for whatever you hold dear.

2- This article was written for an American publication during the time that America celebrates Thanksgiving, so it probably didn't occur to the author that he should have to do a complete background check into all of the countries of the world and add footnotes acknowledging their individual representations and times of this celebration. Cut the guy some slack and just enjoy it.

An American holiday

Tonia, Cleveland, OH — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:51:40 GMT

Come on, you really think that Native Americans eat poorly because of the Europeans. We all have choices to make about our own diets. We all have eaten too much salt, sugar and processed foods. I do feel for what happened to the Native Americans, the African Americans, the Irish Americans, the Jewish Americans and every other group of people oppressed, but I did not do it and I am glad that I live in American and thankful for everything I have. It is sad that we can't just spend one day enjoying our lives and family and friends. I wish all of you a wonderful day and a wonderful life. Please try to be more optimistic and work to secure a better future rather than dwelling on the past.

An American holiday

Bart Strittmatter, Victorville, Ca. — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:25:45 GMT

Thanksgiving, a time to be thankful for all the many blessing we have in the USA and a time to be thankful to God, yes God the one true God that this Christian country used to be thankful too. We were found by our christian founders a "One Nation under God" not under gods.Thanksgiving is the day that I am always to God for His great forgiveness for all the wrongs that have been done and all the goodness that has begun because of His love for a country founded in our love for Him.I am proud to be an American and thankful for God's grace on our great country.I am thankful God loves us.We can not put my thankfulness under a bushel; but out in love for the world to see.I thank God for America and all the freedom He has bless us with dispite ourselves

An American holiday

Linda, Lorain, Oh. — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:25:19 GMT

Thanks be to God from whom all blessings flow. Be thankful for what you have. Quit complaining and finding fault. Everyone should just remember all good things come from God, and He is not partial to anyone. He loves all and desires that all would love Him. If we love God, we will be like Him. Then all these political things would have no meaning, no bearing in our lives. There would be no wars, no killings, no blaming others. All would be peace and joy and love in the Holy Spirit.

An American holiday

Grant Cooper, Honolulu, Hawaii — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:23:18 GMT

Marcus in Tyler, Texas; you are everything against the spirit and family tradition of Thanksgiving! Your mentality is main reason I would never return to Texas after living there for 6 years! No one could pay me enough to deal with your mind set!
Hope the microwave cooks the turkey TV dinner OK and the 7-11 does not run out of beer! Hope the pick up starts and the double wide trailer does not have a roof leak in it!

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Wally — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:45:19 GMT

Don,
Thank you for such a thoughtful and well written piece. You are right. Thanksgiving is an all American holiday. My heart goes out to those who cannot see your point. There is a richness in your words that could lift their hearts. But as you can see, many here see your thoughts for what they were meant to be. Thank you for sharing that part of yourself and reminding us thankfulness does not divide us but unites us.

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Blake, Hartford Connecticut — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:26:40 GMT

As I look at all of the comments here I am puzzled by the negative ones. I worry about a country where a good portion of it's citizens have so little affection for it and the liberties it provides. It's almost as though patriotism has skipped a quarter of our generation. We are given so many rights that at times we fail to appreciate them as we walk around with a sense of entitlement. Learn the history of why our ancestors came here. You'll understand why we have all these rights and are afforded all these freedoms we have grown to think is common. It's not common; it's American. We should remember that. More importantly...we should never forget.

An American holiday

MDTK, Richmond, VA — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:38:12 GMT

Nice article. I feel Thanksgiving has evolved into something much better than the myth about "Pilgrims and Indians" that we tell our children (why do we do that anyway, it is not true). It makes me very sad to know what other humans do to others, but instead of dwelling on the negative, we should focus on the positive. We have it in our power to be better than our ancestors, to not repeat their mistakes of thinking that one group of people is better or more important than another. Our modern Thanksgiving is about beng with family, in whatever form that might be, and being thankful for our lives and our place on this magnificent planet. Perhaps if we all did this on Thanksgiving and every other day, we would be much happier. We should recognize the atrocities of the past and vow not to let them be repeated and give thanks that we have the ability to learn from our mistakes. Blessing to everyone!

An American holiday

Matt in TX — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:50:35 GMT

Nice Article.

An American holiday

Kathy L. El Paso, TX — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:55:15 GMT

Another wonderful American holiday !! Give thanks for what you have and that you lived another year. We aren't a perfect society, but then, nobody is. All of you complainers, for once, just appreciate what you have. Sheesh!! And give thanks for President Bush. Six years after 9/11 and we are still alive and kicking. The terrorists are on the run in Iraq, thanks to him, and his Administration, and our brave military men and women, our allies, and the brave Iraqi people who are working hard to bring their country forward. Happy Thanksgiving everyone !! Yahoooo !!

An American holiday

Rae Brittain, Santa Clarita Ca — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:57:30 GMT

First to the article, I am sure your Thanksgiving will be in the tradition of "A" typical American thanksgiving. To the Native American perspective, I as a Cherokee Indian actually Chak Taw, God was truely present at that first gathering. In Bradfords wiritngs he not only gives thank to God but to the Indians who were there to help them. When the Captain wnet to return to England, not one Pilgrim chose to go. They stayed where they knew they could die but they were able to worship God Freely . Thanksgiving is not about saying thank you for thanks sake, it is about saying Thank you To GOD. If you are going to quote History Quote it correctly. Raerae